12-06-2016, 07:21 PM
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I have now figured I like a shaving brush with a larger knot, 24mm and larger, and not so Silvery, softy, so wonderful, badger 2 band, 3 band, etc. nonsense. I want the brush knot to be firm, fully packed and have some significant body. Soft and not without some sort of actual scratch! Synthetic brush knots seem to fit nicely. And that isn't perfect. Too floppy! Too much lump at the center! But something about badger hair and quality yet appeals. So, I wonder what is Simpson's or anyone's largest hand tied, firmly hair packed badger knot that is available. I really would like to buy just the knot as the handles available today are simply too damn small! Something like the Rubber Set 400 handle is my idea of perfect? I think what I am searching for doesn't seem to exist! What do you think?

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 12-06-2016, 07:31 PM
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Chubby 2 or 3 Manchurian, although they are both short handles.

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 12-06-2016, 07:42 PM
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  • ben74
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The overall biggest Simpson brush was the Samson. The PL14 is not far behind with about a 32mm diameter knot and of course there is the CH3, but the handle is much smaller.
You might have issues purchasing a knot only - you'd have to make inquiries with Mark.
I'm not trying to talk you out of Simpson, but Shavemac will provide you with a huge knot, I had a 34mm that was bigger than the ones above...

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This is currently my biggest (in terms of knot AND handle) Simpson brush (PL14 Manchurian)...

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 12-06-2016, 07:55 PM
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Wow.
Awesome brushes Ben.

There's a Chinese brush on eBay that has a 40mm knot or so.
It looks insane. 

Shavemac would be incredible. I bet it would cost a few bucks and be worth every penny.

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 12-07-2016, 09:24 AM
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(12-06-2016, 07:55 PM)bakerbarber Wrote: Wow.
Awesome brushes Ben.

There's a Chinese brush on eBay that has a 40mm knot or so.
It looks insane. 

Shavemac would be incredible. I bet it would cost a few bucks and be worth every penny.

That was my first thought too. Shavemac Finest at least. Very good quality.

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 12-07-2016, 10:37 AM
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  • chazt
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If your handle requirement is in any way flexible, the Chubby 3 fits the bill nicely.

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 12-07-2016, 02:55 PM
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(12-06-2016, 07:21 PM)oldjoe Wrote: I have now figured I like a shaving brush with a larger knot, 24mm and larger, and not so Silvery, softy, so wonderful, badger 2 band, 3 band, etc. nonsense. I want the brush knot to be firm, fully packed and have some significant body. Soft and not without some sort of actual scratch! Synthetic brush knots seem to fit nicely. And that isn't perfect. Too floppy! Too much lump at the center! But something about badger hair and quality yet appeals. So, I wonder what is Simpson's or anyone's largest hand tied, firmly hair packed badger knot that is available. I really would like to buy just the knot as the handles available today are simply too damn small! Something like the Rubber Set 400 handle is my idea of perfect? I think what I am searching for doesn't seem to exist! What do you think?

I'd try a 26mm Paladin with a lotus handle. 

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 12-07-2016, 05:16 PM
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If you really want a big Simpson go for a Balmoral. Handle is 120 mm high, knot about 35 mm, loft 65 mm. Truly second to none when it comes to Simpsons.

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 12-07-2016, 05:51 PM
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(12-07-2016, 05:16 PM)u2u Wrote: If you really want a big Simpson go for a Balmoral. Handle is 120 mm high, knot about 35 mm, loft 65 mm. Truly second to none when it comes to Simpsons.


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I suggest the artisan approach for this handle if interested in it as Simpson made this a one-time only brush for charity. Or you can always try to coax the owner to sell. Wink

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 12-08-2016, 04:26 AM
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  • Rufus
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Shavemac could be your best bet.  Through the configurator you can customise your brush: 6 selections of knot hair, 3 knot shapes, your choice of knot diameter and loft, several choices of handle shapes and colours.  But I suggest you contact Bernd at shavemac and describe to him what you're looking for..

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 12-08-2016, 06:18 AM
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(12-07-2016, 05:16 PM)u2u Wrote: If you really want a big Simpson go for a Balmoral. Handle is 120 mm high, knot about 35 mm, loft 65 mm. Truly second to none when it comes to Simpsons.


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Must be great for face lathering with that handle - your hand will touch the mirror, while the brush touches your skin  Biggrin

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 12-08-2016, 09:35 AM
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(12-07-2016, 02:55 PM)mike_the_kraken Wrote:
(12-06-2016, 07:21 PM)oldjoe Wrote: I have now figured I like a shaving brush with a larger knot, 24mm and larger, and not so Silvery, softy, so wonderful, badger 2 band, 3 band, etc. nonsense. I want the brush knot to be firm, fully packed and have some significant body. Soft and not without some sort of actual scratch! Synthetic brush knots seem to fit nicely. And that isn't perfect. Too floppy! Too much lump at the center! But something about badger hair and quality yet appeals. So, I wonder what is Simpson's or anyone's largest hand tied, firmly hair packed badger knot that is available. I really would like to buy just the knot as the handles available today are simply too damn small! Something like the Rubber Set 400 handle is my idea of perfect? I think what I am searching for doesn't seem to exist! What do you think?

I'd try a 26mm Paladin with a lotus handle. 

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Suh weeeeet!! That brush is SO good looking!

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 12-08-2016, 01:16 PM
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(12-07-2016, 05:51 PM)kooshman7 Wrote:
(12-07-2016, 05:16 PM)u2u Wrote: If you really want a big Simpson go for a Balmoral. Handle is 120 mm high, knot about 35 mm, loft 65 mm. Truly second to none when it comes to Simpsons.




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I suggest the artisan approach for this handle if interested in it as Simpson made this a one-time only brush for charity. Or you can always try to coax the owner to sell. Wink
There are a few of these large Simpson brushes out in the wild. They were made as display brushes although the above item was a charity auction piece. Maggard Razors has posted photos of one in their shop and The Gentleman's Groom Room has a blog entry and photos of one they have. They have been labeled as a "Balmoral" and as a "Samson" although Samson appears on other forums as a large display brush that has a different handle configuration and probably predates the Balmoral depicted here. Maggard Razors has a Vulfix (38?) display brush that appears to be the same as the Samson. Too much brush to be a daily user.

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 12-08-2016, 04:04 PM
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All these big brushes and I was gearing up to purchase another Duke or wee Scott. I would recommend a polo 14 directly from Mark as there are some nice customs from time to time.

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 12-08-2016, 05:45 PM
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I held the one at Maggard Razors in October. 

There was a giant Omega boar with a barber pole colored handle and a second huge Simpsons on the counter. I don't have a good picture of them, but the three of them were obviously display pieces in my opinion. I actually laughed out loud in disbelief and stunned disbelief at the presence of them.

There are some very large Thater brushes out there. I don't think that handles fit the description of what OP has suggested as his ideal, but I saw a 4125/6 last night online and it's got to be the biggest usable brush currently available from a name brand manufacturer. 

It's gorgeous looking.

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 12-08-2016, 08:47 PM
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(12-08-2016, 06:18 AM)CHSeifert Wrote:
(12-07-2016, 05:16 PM)u2u Wrote: If you really want a big Simpson go for a Balmoral. Handle is 120 mm high, knot about 35 mm, loft 65 mm. Truly second to none when it comes to Simpsons.



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Must be great for face lathering with that handle - your hand will touch the mirror, while the brush touches your skin  Biggrin

And uses a full puck/tub per shave!

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 12-08-2016, 09:15 PM
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(12-08-2016, 08:47 PM)jesseix Wrote:
(12-08-2016, 06:18 AM)CHSeifert Wrote:
(12-07-2016, 05:16 PM)u2u Wrote: If you really want a big Simpson go for a Balmoral. Handle is 120 mm high, knot about 35 mm, loft 65 mm. Truly second to none when it comes to Simpsons.




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Must be great for face lathering with that handle - your hand will touch the mirror, while the brush touches your skin  Biggrin

And uses a full puck/tub per shave!

Just get a kilo of Cella and a 2QT tub to hold the Cella in. No problems then with lather fuel. Wink

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 12-10-2016, 09:37 AM
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I'll take a look at Shavemac and Paladin! But, what about just a firmly packed knot and no handle?

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 12-10-2016, 10:37 AM
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(12-10-2016, 09:37 AM)oldjoe Wrote: I'll take a look at Shavemac and Paladin! But, what about just a firmly packed knot and no handle?

Shavemac sells the knots alone.  Take a look at the Shave Knot Configurator.

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 12-10-2016, 08:15 PM
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And, I will! Thanks. I missed that Shavemac sold knots. Thanks again.

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