12-08-2016, 11:03 PM
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Gents, I discarded cart (Fusion blades) almost 8 months back and moved on to Oneblade and 2 months back to DE shaving.

I do keep carts for finishing touches sometimes and for use in paucity of leisure time to enjoy my Shave with OB /DE.

I am using Polsilver SI and Feather blades on DE Side.

Last one month I have observed my beard is not as soft as it used to be earlier. It has become harder and by evening I can actually feel this on my chin area atleast.

For info sake, I prep my skin with foam wash using warm water and then scrub my face with a mild exfoliant daily. I also use preshave oil at times to keep my beard soft n supple.

But the coarseness of hair has got me worried and seek inputs and suggestions to rectify the gaps.

In your experience what is not right? My technique? Angle? Something else?

Please enlighten me.


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 12-09-2016, 02:52 AM
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Not conventional wisdom around here, but I would drop your prep routine.  The best pre-shave oil is your skin's natural oil, so the only prep I do is splashing cold water on my face repeatedly.

In fact, if you are doing a hot water prep I would recommend switching to cold water, or at least luke-warm water as hot water is very hard on the skin, very drying.

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 12-09-2016, 07:51 AM
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It could be that you're aging. Things change as they age. My beard isn't the same today as it was many years ago.

Too, depending on how you're shaving, the whiskers that have been cut could have sharp pointy ends. I find that most noticeable if I only do a one pass shave. Pointy ended whiskers feel stiffer than ones that have been cut in 2 or more directions removing the points.

My only beard prep is face lathering. By the time I'm done lathering for a few minutes the whiskers are soft and ready for cutting.

This picture is for something else, but it does illustrate a cut whisker and the pointy end.
[Image: WetWhiskerCutvsDry.jpg]

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 12-09-2016, 08:11 AM
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How many passes are you doing?

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 12-09-2016, 08:13 AM
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(12-09-2016, 08:11 AM)ddk13 Wrote: How many passes are you doing?


3 passes.Wtg, atg, xtg. I pretty much ensure that the shave is as close to as I can get.


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 12-09-2016, 08:14 AM
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@ Shadowdad.that pointy whisker is what I am talking about. It could be that...Imo. Not sure though.


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 12-09-2016, 12:19 PM
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I've noticed my facial hair "toughening" I assumed it was a natural expected by-product/effect of shaving with a safety razor. I only notice if I miss a day shaving and develop longer stubble, it's like low grit sandpaper. Haven't noticed it being any harder to shave off though. The only "preshave" I do after the shower is using bloom water before I lather.

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 12-09-2016, 04:22 PM
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(12-09-2016, 08:13 AM)Jags009 Wrote:
(12-09-2016, 08:11 AM)ddk13 Wrote: How many passes are you doing?


3 passes.Wtg, atg, xtg. I pretty much ensure that the shave is as close to as I can get.


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If you are doing them in this order, change the routine.  What works best for me is:  WTG - XTG - ATG.

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 12-09-2016, 05:08 PM
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 12-09-2016, 05:19 PM
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I'm guessing that this may come down to technique. The giveaway is that you're still relying on carts for finishing touches. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but if you're making full use of your single-blade razor (OB or DE), the final result should be as close or closer than you get with the cart. So my first piece of advice would be to give yourself more time. Eight months may sound like a lot, but really it's not. I was a far better DE shaver 3 years in than I was at 1 year in. My second suggestion would be to simplify your prep. Warm water and/or a wet, soapy pre-lather may be all you need. And I would ditch the pre-shave oil -- it reduces the effective sharpness of your blade and masks flaws in technique -- in other words, it slows down the learning process. With time and patience you'll get closer shaves than you think you can get now, and the sharp stubble problem may subside once you hit your sweet spot in terms of technique. If you stick with it, I guarantee that you'll be in an altogether different place eight months from now. Good luck!

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 12-09-2016, 06:27 PM
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Remember, the goal is not to remove everything in one pass.  Let the razor do the work.  It's called beard reduction.  Just a little at a time.

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 12-09-2016, 06:30 PM
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Thanks a lot gentlemen.


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 12-09-2016, 06:39 PM
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Jags, if you're doing 3 passes I doubt that you have pointy whiskers. I suggested that before reading about the 3 passes.

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 12-10-2016, 12:11 PM
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(12-09-2016, 05:19 PM)Viseguy Wrote: you're still relying on carts for finishing touches. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but if you're making full use of your single-blade razor (OB or DE), the final result should be as close or closer than you get with the cart.

Well hedged:  “as close or closer than”; but using a good cartridge (Feather MR3 neo), I always can get a final result “as close [as] or closer than” I can get with a DE fitted with a fresh top-grade blade (KAI or Feather).   Mind you, when at home, I shave daily with a DE for the recreational aspect of the experience; but when I travel and carry only the Feather MR3 neo, the shaves on the road are just as close as the final results at home.

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 12-10-2016, 04:32 PM
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(12-10-2016, 12:11 PM)Mel S Meles Wrote:
(12-09-2016, 05:19 PM)Viseguy Wrote: you're still relying on carts for finishing touches. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but if you're making full use of your single-blade razor (OB or DE), the final result should be as close or closer than you get with the cart.
... when I travel and carry only the Feather MR3 neo, the shaves on the road are just as close as the final results at home.

I don't doubt it. Never heard of the neo but may check it out for travel (carry-on) purposes. I do feel that the traditional tools are a more pleasurable, if more challenging, means to the same end -- though nothing beats the ultra-BBS that comes with a slow straight shave, IMO.

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 12-10-2016, 09:01 PM
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I thank it also depends on your razor your using. What kind of razor(s) are you using?

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 12-11-2016, 06:52 AM
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(12-10-2016, 09:01 PM)Chaddy Wrote: I thank it also depends on your razor your using. What kind of razor(s) are you using?


Oneblade and Merkur Progress.


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 12-11-2016, 08:45 AM
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The more I shave, the faster I feel that my beard grows. Also, is it winter weather where you are?

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 12-11-2016, 09:10 AM
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A freshly cut whisker SHOULD feel sharp/rough as it starts to grow out. That's because there is a clean cut on the hair. As the hair grows the end frays, making it softer to the touch.

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 12-11-2016, 10:21 AM
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(12-11-2016, 08:45 AM)Spudnut Wrote: The more I shave, the faster I feel that my beard grows. Also, is it winter weather where you are?


Winter is setting in now. The observation was made a month or so back. Today is a little better feel, used Nuavia..


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