07-22-2017, 05:37 PM
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Thought I'd put this here, I'm thinking of getting a straight razor and giving this a go. I have a question about stropping, I understand the leather side but why do you use the fabric side and how often do you use it? Every shave?

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 07-23-2017, 08:20 AM
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  • Obie
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  • Glendale, Wisconsin
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Gentlemen,

I have shaved straight for quite some years, with a sprinkling of safety razor. Straight razor fatigue, however, as well arthritis in my shoulders and hands that limits some movements, more and more have forced me to turn to the safety razor. These days I shave straight mostly on the weekends and particularly on Sundays.

A well honed straight razor, whether modest or legendary, plus well crafted technique can produce a superb shave. Whether using a straight or safety, however, I have always had difficulty getting my desired shave on the neck, although, I must admit, the safety razor has given me a better shave in that area.

For me, it's always been comfort over perfect.

Both the straight and the safety razor give me equally good shaves, although these days, because of some physical limitations, the safety razor is easier to handle for the multi-directional movements on the neck. Do I prefer the straight razor over the safety? No, not really, because I take each form of shaving instrument for what it is.

As a side note, these days I also find myself moving closer to mid-aggressive safety razors with a pronounced blade feel. Go figure. For example, the first time I tried the Blackbird a few months ago I couldn't stand it because of excessive blade feel. Now I love it, and it is one of my top razors. The Sabre's blade feel pleases me, too. Of course, the Paradigm is still up there with its pleasing blade feel.

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 08-01-2017, 02:46 AM
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I get very nice results with a good DE and an efficient blade, but a well honed nicely maintained straight razor still has an edge ? over all other shaves.
I tried SE razors but I am not a fan of these.

For my shaves I most of the time use both DE for most of my face, straight for the contours of my goatee, sideburns, finishing, and those spots where nothing gives better results than a straight.

This routine gives me the best effortless results and satisfaction.

When I have the time, I enjoy a nice complete straight razor shave.

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 08-01-2017, 05:06 AM
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I started with a murker 34c.  I never really liked it and went all out and bought an ATT SE1.  I love that razor.  I recommend an SE.  They are a little stiffer for me and get a better shave with less chatter.

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 08-01-2017, 01:36 PM
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I shaved with a straight for years, about two months ago started DE.

For me, the benefit of the straight shave is that it is COMPLETELY non-irritating to my face. Easy 2 pass BBS/DFS with zero irritation. 

DE I get just as close of a shave, but have to be very careful with my lower neck line, or I get irritation. Still perfecting DE technique, however.

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 08-01-2017, 02:05 PM
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When I have the time I go W-XTG with a str8 and finish with a mixed ATG with str8 and safety touch up. Setup and cleanup is what's time consuming really, but the results are fenomenal.

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 01-20-2018, 12:51 PM
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One is like checkers the other is like chess. I’ll let you guess which is which.

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 01-21-2018, 12:21 AM
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I find a straight to be smoother and closer than a DE, with almost no irritation.  Thats why Im such a big fan of the Feather Artist Club.  IMO, it combines the ease of maintenance of a DE with better results than a traditional straight because a Feather is like the most perfectly honed straight in the world.  Not to mention the blades last about twice as long as a DE does.

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 02-22-2018, 09:40 AM
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  • JABF99
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  • Illinois
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For me it is not a straight razor vs. double-edge thing.  I use both now on every shave.  It's like using hand tools.  You don't have to make one tool do it all.  I have different razors of both types, but have come to have a favorite now of each.  I have a Merkur 34c with the Feather blades that I use for the first pass on my face.  My 2nd pass is with a Feather SS with the Pro blade.  I like using the SS with the Japanese style straight handle.  It just works best for me.  Anyway, I then just hit any remaining areas that are not BBS with the Merkur again for a 3rd pass.  

I find that different areas of my face are best with one or the other tool.  When I combine my shave with both razors, I end up with such a comfortable shave.  And it doesn't take long to complete this 3-pass shave.  I do this every morning before work... I deeply enjoy my shaves now.  Sometimes I swap my other razors into the mix instead of these and that is fun.  But my favorite is the Merkur/SS combo shave.  It is amazing (to me anyway) how close/smooth my face is each and every day now.  And I never cut/nick myself anymore, and never have any irritation.  It just feels sooooo good all day.

My routine now is to use a bit of EV olive oil pre and post shave.  I shower, then lay a base of olive oil on my face.  Then I use my own shaving soap that I make:

20% Castor Oil
20% Palm Oil
20% Shea Butter
40% Stearic Acid

This is made with 100% coconut milk instead of water.  It has ~10% superfat.  It has a sandalwood/vanilla fragrance oil with just a dash of peppermint oil (my wife likes the fragrance on me... in fact she makes me keep my soap stash in her closet so it smells so nice).  Anyway, I'm now a multi-tool guy when I shave.  I like the DE/SR combo now :-)

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 02-22-2018, 12:30 PM
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(02-22-2018, 09:40 AM)JABF99 Wrote: For me it is not a straight razor vs. double-edge thing.  I use both now on every shave.  It's like using hand tools.  You don't have to make one tool do it all.  I have different razors of both types, but have come to have a favorite now of each.  I have a Merkur 34c with the Feather blades that I use for the first pass on my face.  My 2nd pass is with a Feather SS with the Pro blade.  I like using the SS with the Japanese style straight handle.  It just works best for me.  Anyway, I then just hit any remaining areas that are not BBS with the Merkur again for a 3rd pass.  

I find that different areas of my face are best with one or the other tool.  When I combine my shave with both razors, I end up with such a comfortable shave.  And it doesn't take long to complete this 3-pass shave.  I do this every morning before work... I deeply enjoy my shaves now.  Sometimes I swap my other razors into the mix instead of these and that is fun.  But my favorite is the Merkur/SS combo shave.  It is amazing (to me anyway) how close/smooth my face is each and every day now.  And I never cut/nick myself anymore, and never have any irritation.  It just feels sooooo good all day.

My routine now is to use a bit of EV olive oil pre and post shave.  I shower, then lay a base of olive oil on my face.  Then I use my own shaving soap that I make:

20% Castor Oil
20% Palm Oil
20% Shea Butter
40% Stearic Acid

This is made with 100% coconut milk instead of water.  It has ~10% superfat.  It has a sandalwood/vanilla fragrance oil with just a dash of peppermint oil (my wife likes the fragrance on me... in fact she makes me keep my soap stash in her closet so it smells so nice).  Anyway, I'm now a multi-tool guy when I shave.  I like the DE/SR combo now :-)
Interesting.  Did you try the folding version of the SS and decide you liked the kamisori version better?  Or did you start with the kamisori version and it just seemed to click for you?

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 02-22-2018, 01:15 PM
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  • JABF99
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  • Illinois
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(02-22-2018, 12:30 PM)kingfisher Wrote:
(02-22-2018, 09:40 AM)JABF99 Wrote: For me it is not a straight razor vs. double-edge thing.  I use both now on every shave.  It's like using hand tools.  You don't have to make one tool do it all.  I have different razors of both types, but have come to have a favorite now of each.  I have a Merkur 34c with the Feather blades that I use for the first pass on my face.  My 2nd pass is with a Feather SS with the Pro blade.  I like using the SS with the Japanese style straight handle.  It just works best for me.  Anyway, I then just hit any remaining areas that are not BBS with the Merkur again for a 3rd pass.  

I find that different areas of my face are best with one or the other tool.  When I combine my shave with both razors, I end up with such a comfortable shave.  And it doesn't take long to complete this 3-pass shave.  I do this every morning before work... I deeply enjoy my shaves now.  Sometimes I swap my other razors into the mix instead of these and that is fun.  But my favorite is the Merkur/SS combo shave.  It is amazing (to me anyway) how close/smooth my face is each and every day now.  And I never cut/nick myself anymore, and never have any irritation.  It just feels sooooo good all day.

My routine now is to use a bit of EV olive oil pre and post shave.  I shower, then lay a base of olive oil on my face.  Then I use my own shaving soap that I make:

20% Castor Oil
20% Palm Oil
20% Shea Butter
40% Stearic Acid

This is made with 100% coconut milk instead of water.  It has ~10% superfat.  It has a sandalwood/vanilla fragrance oil with just a dash of peppermint oil (my wife likes the fragrance on me... in fact she makes me keep my soap stash in her closet so it smells so nice).  Anyway, I'm now a multi-tool guy when I shave.  I like the DE/SR combo now :-)
Interesting.  Did you try the folding version of the SS and decide you liked the kamisori version better?  Or did you start with the kamisori version and it just seemed to click for you?

I started with the Kamisori version, so it's probably just a matter of being used to that style.  If I had started with a folding SR perhaps I would prefer that over the SS.  I should add that I am a pretty new to using the traditional straight razor, and I do enjoy it also (very much so).   Both razors are amazing.  But I still like a DE too.  The Feather Hi-Stainless Platinum blades are what I use in the DE, and I like them a lot.  I use the Feather Professional blades in the SS and like them a lot also.  I had a rocky start to using the shavette.  It didn't go well at first.  But once I got used to it, I absolutely love using it.  

There are times I do use one razor for the entire shave.  But especially during the week when I'm limited with my time before going to work, I find the 3-pass thing (DE, SS, DE) works fast, yet gives me an amazing shave.  I can't go that fast with a 3-pass straight razor.  Not yet anyway.  Maybe with time I will though.  Like I said, I'm pretty new to all of this.

Ultimately I think I am going to get a straight razor made by Jerry Stark, but with a straight handle, rather than a folding handle.  He has one style that looks amazing to me.  I just need to sweet-talk my good wife into letting me buy one.  In our family budget system we have to have the other's okay for bigger expenses like this.  I have a big milestone birthday coming up later this year and I'll bet she lets me get the custom razor :-)

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