01-07-2017, 07:43 AM
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(01-07-2017, 05:29 AM)nikos.a Wrote:
(01-07-2017, 05:20 AM)david1201 Wrote:
(01-06-2017, 10:22 PM)CHSeifert Wrote: It's that time  Biggrin

Your top 5 artisan list for 2017.

Let's hear it.

Mine:

1. Barrister & Mann
2. Cold River Soap Works
3. Tabula Rasa
4. Le Pére Lucien
5. Caties Bubbles

H.M.: Mike's Natural, Wickham 1912 & Haslinger

Awaiting to try Eufros/Jabonman, L&L Grooming & Tallow & Steel soaps for the first time.....

Claus, really, Caties Bubbles beats out Nuavia?  

Expect Tallow & Steel will move up for you once you try it - I have Rainforest, and love it!  Reminds me of Mike's with a more complex scent profile.  Jabonman Rosa Bourbon is special imho, you will regret waiting this long to try it....
On another thread, I read a Claus' comment that Wickham is not that high in his preferences. He had some bad shaves... What did change since then?

At this moment, I don't have a Top 5.

I believe that an anti-Top 5 list would be more interesting...


I own all 8 Wickham 1912 and for some reason had a serious of less than stellar shaves using my ATT SE2 and Wickham 1912 Irish Fern. But since then the other Wickham 1912's have given me great shaves. So that's why.

I'm quite fickle by nature, and all these brands are pretty close performers.

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 01-07-2017, 07:48 AM
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(01-07-2017, 06:07 AM)Steelman Wrote:
(01-07-2017, 05:19 AM)Nero Wrote: 1. Valobra

The rest s^@k, IMO.

None of these "great" "artisans" even touch the performance of GFT and AOS creams which is what we started from. I'd rather go back.

I agree with Matt (kinda).  If I am not using a Valobra product, I am using either Mike's or CRSW. (Or a cream, which is a topic for another thread.)

While I don't feel as strongly as "they suck Biggrin ", my experience is that the newer artisans make a fine product, but not superior enough to displace anything in my "old school" line-up.

In the spirit of Claus' thread, I'll list these 5 

Valobra
Mike's Natural
CRSW
SMN V3
Floris #89 cream


since Claus didn't mention I Coloniali, I am assuming he means products that are currently in production.


Ron, I'm not sure I Coloniali, ABC, SMN and Valobra are considered artisans or not. Also, for an artisan to be on my top list, the artisan needs to have a wide variety of scents in the catalogue to choose from. This leaves out some top performers on my personal list.

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 01-07-2017, 07:51 AM
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SMN
XPEC
....crickets

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 01-07-2017, 07:52 AM
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Hmmm.  These days I'd say my favorites are:
1. Mike's
2. Mystic Waters
3. CRSW
4. B&M
5. Nuavia

I doubt my top 4 have changed in over 2 years though.  Solid performers for me in every respect.

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 01-07-2017, 08:15 AM
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I am surprised that there has been no mention yet of Wet Shaving Products Formula T. It is excellent! I have also been impressed with the performance of Desmond's Barrow.

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 01-07-2017, 09:05 AM
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I really only have a top 2 when it comes to artisans - Mystic Water & Mike's. Then there are a few artisans that are great and I enjoy using, but I don't feel like i have to have them in the den at all times: L&L, Sapone di Paolo, B&M, & CRSW. May try a few more in 2017, but I'm pretty content with these artisans as well as my non-artisan vendors.

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 01-07-2017, 09:14 AM
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Based on my limited soap usage:

1) CRSW v2
2) B&M
3) Mike's Natural
4) Shannon's Soaps (Rust Belt Reserve)
-still only the one scent for now, but great performer
5) Big Easy Soaps

I agree with Phil regarding Desmond's Barrow. I just don't have enough time with it yet to put it in top 5

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 01-07-2017, 09:45 AM
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At the moment, I would say CRSW, LASSC, Sudsy Soapery, Mike's, and Stirling.

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 01-07-2017, 10:01 AM
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In no particular order..

CRSW
B&M
Eufros by Jabonman
Pannacrema
Tallow + Steel

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 01-07-2017, 10:10 AM
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US Artisans:

US Artisan top 5

Barrister & Mann
Mike's 
Mystic Water
L&L
Stirling

Euros (Artisan or not) top 5

SMN v3
Savon de Bons Bergers/Savon des Volcans
Valobra
(On my list for 2017 -- Jabonman/Eufros)
Room for one more -- maybe SdM or SV

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 01-07-2017, 11:14 AM
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In no particular order:
Wickham 1912
L&L Grooming
Tabula Rasa
B&M
Stirling

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 01-07-2017, 11:39 AM
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1. Nuavia
2. MdC
3. B&M
4. Eufros/Jabonman
5. CRSW

Tomorrow, it may be different.

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 01-07-2017, 12:14 PM
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Ok so SMN isn't included on my list as I don't consider it an 'Artisan' soap but it is the best I own. 

Nuavia
CRSW
Sapone di Paolo
Shannon's Soaps
B&M

Honorable mentions go to L&L, LaBelle and Mystic Water

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 01-07-2017, 12:17 PM
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(01-07-2017, 12:14 PM)Oasisdave Wrote: Ok so SMN isn't included on my list as I don't consider it an 'Artisan' soap but it is the best I own. 

Nuavia
CRSW
Sapone di Paolo
Shannon's Soaps
B&M

Honorable mentions go to L&L, LaBelle and Mystic Water

In what way do you feel CRSW, B&M and Nuavia soaps are better than L&L Grooming soap ?

I know this is minor differences, but I'm looking at getting my first L&L, Tallow & Steel and Eufros soaps soon.

Already own several dozens of B&M, CRSW and all 3 Nuavias.

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 01-07-2017, 12:41 PM
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(01-07-2017, 12:17 PM)CHSeifert Wrote:
(01-07-2017, 12:14 PM)Oasisdave Wrote: Ok so SMN isn't included on my list as I don't consider it an 'Artisan' soap but it is the best I own. 

Nuavia
CRSW
Sapone di Paolo
Shannon's Soaps
B&M

Honorable mentions go to L&L, LaBelle and Mystic Water

In what way do you feel CRSW, B&M and Nuavia soaps are better than L&L Grooming soap ?

I know this is minor differences, but I'm looking at getting my first L&L, Tallow & Steel and Eufros soaps soon.

Already own several dozens of B&M, CRSW and all 3 Nuavias.

Honestly Claus it's hard to say specifically. The only reason I put B&M on there instead of L&L is that to me the Glissant base is probably one of the very best I have used, I would put it right up there with SMN and Nuavia. I just don't feel that L&L is as slick or gives as good of a post shave as the current formulation of B&M although it is extremely close. L&L is a winner Claus and I'm sure you will be very happy with your purchase. 

To me it seems when it comes to many of these Artisan soaps it's almost like apples and oranges, it just comes down to what you prefer. I also strongly believe that some soaps just work out better for some of us than others, whether its due to our individual skin types, water hardness in our area, lathering technique etc. I am still amazed at the lack of recognition that Sapone di Paolo and Shannon's Soaps get. To me they are every bit as good as many of the Artisans that get alot of publicity on the forums. 

I can't speak for Eufros or Tallow + Steel as I don't currently own any but am waiting for an email from Manuel letting me know my tub of Kasbah is ready to go along with a tub of the Tallow Fougere!

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 01-07-2017, 12:41 PM
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If I may add my opinion here I would say that from those three that you are planning to add to your collection, T+S impresses me the most

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 01-07-2017, 01:26 PM
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Barrister and Mann
Jabonman
Mikes
Tallow and Steel
Soap Smooth

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 01-07-2017, 01:30 PM
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Artisan, I assume means soaps that are NOT triple milled or I would include Saponificio Varesino.  Also, I assume we mean artisans that are STILL producing or I would have Strop Shoppe as number 2.

1.  Mike's
2.  Tallow & Steel
3.  Barrister & Mann
4.  OSP
5.  Reef Point

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 01-07-2017, 02:21 PM
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Barrister & Mann
Cold River Soap Works
Stirling
Razorock
Phoenix & Beau

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 01-07-2017, 03:04 PM
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Ed, I totally understand it and I'm sorry for derailing a bit the thread. It was just a thought of me.


So, since I don't have a Top 5 at this moment, I'll post the artisans that I truly enjoy this period.

These are the following:
  • CRSW
  • Savon de Volcans
  • Nuavia
  • Le Pere Lucien
These 4 for me. I could have only these and be extremely happy.

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