01-07-2017, 06:21 PM
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How do Vie Long silvertips compare in softness and density to a Kent BLK4? 

I like the softness and loft of the Kent, but I would like a little more face feel when face lathering. I don't want more scrub; instead, I would like a bit of an ever so slight massage or light pressure, or resistance, from the tips when face lathering. I don't splay brushes on my face--I only use the tips when applying lather. 

Do the knots vary from handle to handle? For example, will all 24mm knots with a 57mm loft feel basically the same, or will certain handles have denser knots than others? I'm thinking of the 16551, 16552, and the 16510 in particular.

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 01-07-2017, 06:36 PM
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There's a lot of ppl that really enjoy vie long silvertips but to me the hair had a touch of scritch in the epsilon when it was wet. Very very soft dry though. Idk I sold it after a handful of uses and everybody seems to thoroughly enjoy the silvertip offering so who knows.

What about thater or shavemac. I haven't tried silvertip offerings but their 2 bands are very soft with a bit more face feel and backbone. Another option would be saville row, known for soft luxurious knots, made by shavemac to their spec

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 01-07-2017, 10:42 PM
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Some Vie Longs are on the scratchy side but for the couple silver tips I have tried, they are not subpar. I find that they are closer to being untreated or pure badger. So you may find at the first use and during a break in period, that the tips have some scrub. But you may also lose that or it may keep that gentle scrub. 

I checked out one of the Red/Clear handled ones earlier last week and loved the feeling of the knots shape, give, hold and soft tips. I think it was a 24mm by 57mm loft. You mentioned that you like to feel and use the tips with a bit more finesse as do I so don't be afraid to get a taller lofted more bulb shaped knot.

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 08-26-2019, 01:35 AM
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  • ischiapp
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A magnificent brush.
I say.

Thanks also to an equally magnificent handmade product, the foam today was a yogurt.
Dense and creamy that not even in Greece have it.
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Sweetness, sweetness, sweetness.
This Vielong Edición Especial 2019 Foro Afeitado HMW Silvertip 24x52x110mm on the skin is a cloud.

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 08-26-2019, 07:40 AM
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  • Barrylu
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I own 4 Kents and 4 Vielongs. The Kents are very consistent with soft tips, Not much backbone. The Vie longs, however, Took a bit of trading and selling to get 4 perfect brushes that have no scritch a bit of backbone and soft tips. In other words, The Vie longs are a bit more inconsistent than the Kents. But they are easy enough to find. I prefer my good Vie longs to my Kents But use both fairly equally.

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 08-26-2019, 07:46 AM
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  • Teiste
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I'm biased to Vie Long and the Silvertip hair that they use is one of the best alongside Thater and shavemac.

I have been lucky to get the ones with extra soft tips but they sometimes lack backbone , so make sure you get one with a loft of around 50 mm.But in softness , the ones I have tried/owned , very difficult to beat.

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 08-26-2019, 09:23 AM
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(08-26-2019, 07:46 AM)Teiste Wrote: I have been lucky to get the ones with extra soft tips but they sometimes lack backbone ...
Trusting your advice, I took it.

My prayer that it was really super soft, with little backbone and very sweet tips, was largely fulfilled.
Teiste ... holy now !!

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 08-26-2019, 12:07 PM
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  • chazt
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I regularly enjoy using my two Vie-Long made Epsilon’s from a few years back. The knots are exceptionally well made and are truly second to none in terms of density, backbone and face feel.

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 08-27-2019, 07:02 PM
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  • Teiste
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(08-26-2019, 09:23 AM)ischiapp Wrote:
(08-26-2019, 07:46 AM)Teiste Wrote: I have been lucky to get the ones with extra soft tips but they sometimes lack backbone ...
Trusting your advice, I took it.

My prayer that it was really super soft, with little backbone and very sweet tips, was largely fulfilled.
Teiste ... holy now !!

Thanks my friend 

Grazie mile , mio amico

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 08-28-2019, 03:27 AM
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  • Rufus
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I love my Vie Long 3-band silvertip. The tips are soft and it has the right amount of backbone for me, which is a bit more than that of a Kent BK4. I agree that the knot compares very favourably with those of shavemac and Thater in terms of face feel and performance. Where the VL really shines is its price: high end quality and performance at a very reasonable price.

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