02-21-2017, 04:29 AM
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Hey guys I am looking to try out the SE side of things. I have always had good luck with Ikon razors so I found and purchased an El Jefe and an SE handle to go with it. After making the purchase I discovered the Hawk and upon reading it looks like the Hawk tends to be a more refined razor. That being said I typically prefer a more aggressive shave and a heavier razor. I'm now debating on purchasing a Hawk being that they are actually in stock (and only $25). Should I just get both and compare them or give the Ikon a try first? Thoughts? Thanks

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 02-21-2017, 07:28 AM
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For $25 I would give it a go.

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 02-21-2017, 07:42 AM
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If you prefer a heavier razor then the Hawk isn't the one you want. Extremely lightweight. From what I've read the El Jefe is a much more aggressive razor also.

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 02-21-2017, 10:31 AM
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(02-21-2017, 07:42 AM)MikeL Wrote: If you prefer a heavier razor then the Hawk isn't the one you want. Extremely lightweight. From what I've read the El Jefe is a much more aggressive razor also.


I own both and concur - the Hawk is very light and on the mild side. El Jefe is right up there with the Cobra and Asylum Rx.

However, I also agree with @lloydrm - for $25 why not satisfy your curiosity? Try it with an aftermarket handle (adds weight) and a Feather Super Pro blade (which turns this mild mannered razor into a tiger).

--Bob

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 02-21-2017, 11:59 AM
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(02-21-2017, 07:28 AM)lloydrm Wrote: For $25 I would give it a go.

Agree with this. Not much risk

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 02-21-2017, 12:19 PM
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I own both and since no one has mentioned it and to make sure you know, the El-Jefe has blade alignment issues. One has to align the blade in its least aggressive position to get a good shave. Loaded incorrectly it is a murder weapon and I have the scar to prove it.
If you want cheap go for the Hawk which I find mild with the pro, (never used the super with it yet), but I think the manufacturer advises against this. A good aggressive SE with the pro super is the General which I used today in a rush with a super pro and got cut, but it was my fault.
My 2 bits.

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 02-21-2017, 02:24 PM
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I'm aware of the alignment issue. It really doesn't bother me one of my favorite razors I have owned was an original Ikon slant and you had to be very careful with alignment with it as well. I may just pick up the Hawk as well and try it with the Ikon handle as well.

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 02-21-2017, 02:53 PM
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You guys talked me into it. At first I thought only the satin silver Hawk was in stock, but when I saw the Blackhawk is as well I just did it.

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 02-21-2017, 04:40 PM
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(02-21-2017, 02:53 PM)Yellowv Wrote: You guys talked me into it. At first I thought only the satin silver Hawk was in stock, but when I saw the Blackhawk is as well I just did it.

Yippy!  You won't be sorry. (I enjoy seeing other guys buy stuff almost as much as I enjoy buying stuff myself.)

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 02-21-2017, 10:55 PM
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Gents, your thoughts.
I tend to gravitate towards curved heads on an SE since I can vary the angle as I go. The angled head seems to dictate the angle of attack in advance for the user. What are your thoughts on this please?

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 02-22-2017, 07:18 AM
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(02-21-2017, 10:55 PM)kyproset Wrote: Gents, your thoughts.
I tend to gravitate towards curved heads on an SE since I can vary the angle as I go. The angled head seems to dictate the angle of attack in advance for the user. What are your thoughts on this please?

Just because the razor has an angled head doesn't mean you can't change the angle. When I use my Mongoose I do not use the built in angle. I bring the handle down a little to change the angle. It's no big deal. Like any other razor.

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 02-27-2017, 02:21 PM
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Well I got the Hawk and the El Jefe head in the mail today. My Ikon handle got misrouted by USPS so it didn't arrive today as it should. In the coming days I will try them both and report back. First impressions are that the Hawk is even lighter than I thought it would be. It looks cool and I know they are said to not be perfect, but I would consider it more of a blem than the blem El Jefe head. The finish on it pretty much sucks. It has two big shiny spots on the top cap and looks like a bad spray paint job. The Jefe looks like a more robust better made piece even with the play in alignment. I will predict that I am going to prefer the Ikon, but I'll give them both a chance.

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 02-27-2017, 02:41 PM
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Sorry.  Facepalm

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 02-27-2017, 02:50 PM
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No worries. No big deal if I don't like it. I'm sure I could get $20 back out of it.

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 02-27-2017, 04:08 PM
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 03-01-2017, 09:25 AM
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Well I got the Ikon SE handle in and I will be giving these guys test runs in the coming days. The Ikon is so much heavier it's not even funny. We'll see if that turns out to be good or bad. The SE handle is my favorite handle and I have had several in the past. I must say this new one I just got has several imperfections on it. The price has dropped and it seems like the quality has as well.

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 03-01-2017, 10:07 PM
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Funny, of all my handles I use the same one on the El-Jefe and it looks amazing on it.
The Hawk I had both the black and chrome one and as long as I used them the plating never failed. Both of mine came blem free, but I gave both away to friends as I found them too mild. The El-Jefe I still have in my rotation and use with the MG.

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