02-23-2017, 10:35 AM
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(02-23-2017, 07:11 AM)Coyote Wrote: I have three of Bob's brushes. I used a Manchurian White knot in the latest and love it. I concur with all of the above!

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Congratulations, that truly is one beautiful handle plus with Bob's knot, an extraordinary brush.

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 02-23-2017, 10:47 AM
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If I was headed toward denser brushes this would be near the top of the list. Alas, I'm moving in the opposite direction -- but it's still a great looking knot.

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 02-23-2017, 10:58 AM
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(02-23-2017, 10:47 AM)rsp1202 Wrote: If I was headed toward denser brushes this would be near the top of the list. Alas, I'm moving in the opposite direction -- but it's still a great looking knot.

Ron, these knots have excellent flow and lather release, so you don't have to worry that the density is a problem.

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 02-23-2017, 12:37 PM
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(02-23-2017, 07:11 AM)Coyote Wrote: I have three of Bob's brushes. I used a Manchurian White knot in the latest and love it. I concur with all of the above!

24mmx50mm Bulb

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This is one gorgeous brush. What's the handle material?

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 02-23-2017, 12:40 PM
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Ricardo, Bob's 24/50 above looks perfect, though I'd probably opt for a bit higher loft to keep some flex in the knot. If someone were to compare it to a Thater 4125/2 and Paladin bulb, both of which I'm familiar with, I might know better if it was something I'd be interested in pursuing. That the batches have been consistently good is another factor to consider.

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 02-23-2017, 07:12 PM
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(02-23-2017, 12:40 PM)rsp1202 Wrote: Ricardo, Bob's 24/50 above looks perfect, though I'd probably opt for a bit higher loft to keep some flex in the knot. If someone were to compare it to a Thater 4125/2 and Paladin bulb, both of which I'm familiar with, I might know better if it was something I'd be interested in pursuing.

I agree that Bob's 24/50 looks just right for a bulb, although I like low lofts and would probably go slightly lower on a 24mm fan knot.  However, you can go to a 52-54mm loft if you want more splay and softness.  The Thater 4125-2 is a 26mm set to a 55mm loft.  If you like the feel and performance of that brush, a Manchurian White set to a higher loft will probably work well for you.

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 02-23-2017, 07:28 PM
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The Thater feels pretty much right on as is; it's set at 54mm, a loft that has generally worked well for me in a variety of different knot types. This Elite certainly doesn't sound like a typical Manchurian with scrub and such. Very tempting.

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 02-24-2017, 07:20 AM
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(02-23-2017, 12:37 PM)snowman Wrote:
(02-23-2017, 07:11 AM)Coyote Wrote: I have three of Bob's brushes. I used a Manchurian White knot in the latest and love it. I concur with all of the above!

24mmx50mm Bulb

[Image: Elite%20Razor%20Amboyna%20Man%20Wht%20Bl...h3carv.jpg]


This is one gorgeous brush. What's the handle material?


Amboyna Burl-It is becoming my #1!

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 02-24-2017, 07:51 AM
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(02-23-2017, 07:28 PM)rsp1202 Wrote: The Thater feels pretty much right on as is; it's set at 54mm, a loft that has generally worked well for me in a variety of different knot types. This Elite certainly doesn't sound like a typical Manchurian with scrub and such. Very tempting.

Although Elite's knot have a Manchurian White title, they are not like Simpson Manchurian at all.

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 02-24-2017, 10:12 AM
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(02-24-2017, 07:20 AM)Coyote Wrote:
(02-23-2017, 12:37 PM)snowman Wrote:
(02-23-2017, 07:11 AM)Coyote Wrote: I have three of Bob's brushes. I used a Manchurian White knot in the latest and love it. I concur with all of the above!

24mmx50mm Bulb

[Image: Elite%20Razor%20Amboyna%20Man%20Wht%20Bl...h3carv.jpg]


This is one gorgeous brush. What's the handle material?


Amboyna Burl-It is becoming my #1!


Beautiful wood. Enjoy it in good health

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 03-03-2017, 06:35 PM
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I just received the Elite 24mm Manchurian 2-band bulb knot. After a shampoo and hand-lather, I can say that it's as soft-tipped as everyone says, flowthrough is excellent, density is great but not overwhelming, and scrub feels low. Hard to say without it sitting in a handle, but I don't think this thing will have any trouble splaying or providing good backbone, depending upon what loft is chosen. This might just work at 52mm instead of my usually favored 54mm, but I'm going to resist going any lower. What stands out so far are the white tips with almost an entire lack of black hairs mixed in. In fact, I've never seen such a pristine knot. This Manchurian gives Manchurian a good name, far as I'm concerned.

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 03-03-2017, 06:55 PM
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(03-03-2017, 06:35 PM)rsp1202 Wrote: I just received the Elite 24mm Manchurian 2-band bulb knot. After a shampoo and hand-lather, I can say that it's as soft-tipped as everyone says, flowthrough is excellent, density is great but not overwhelming, and scrub feels low. Hard to say without it sitting in a handle, but I don't think this thing will have any trouble splaying or providing good backbone, depending upon what loft is chosen. This might just work at 52mm instead of my usually favored 54mm, but I'm going to resist going any lower. What stands out so far are the white tips with almost an entire lack of black hairs mixed in. In fact, I've never seen such a pristine knot. This Manchurian gives Manchurian a good name, far as I'm concerned.

Ron, I've set the Manchurian White 26mm bulb to a loft of 50mm and been very pleased.  There is still sufficient splay for me, but I like backbone and scrub.  Judging from the brushes you've said you like, a 52mm loft is probably more to your liking.

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 03-03-2017, 07:04 PM
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I think you're right, Ricardo. On first blush, this knot is not the monster I feared but instead quite workable. I can see why some gents might want to stock up with knots from this excellent batch.

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 03-03-2017, 07:15 PM
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I got a fan the other day and set it at 52mm. I didn't have time to get it set into a handle until a couple of days after it came in the mail.

The knot I received was not overly large as I have seen others mention. It went into a 25mm socket easily. I test fit it into a Rubberset 400 handle which is a bit tight with some 24mm listed knots. It was an easy fit. I ended up putting it in a different handle ultimately though.

I shaved with it three days in row. I ordered another one after the second shave. A bulb knot.

It's not going to be in hand until Monday probably but I'm happy with the fan enough to cough up the dough for another one. I noticed the price crept up $5 in the week between when I ordered the first one and the second one. 

The things that I really appreciate about the knot is the density and the natural appearance and softness. The backbone is not Simpsons Manchurian level. It's very nice and similar to the Select knots in Paladin brushes. Very symmetrical and even shape too.

Mine isn't gel tipped. Maybe the bulb will be different in this regard.

The fan knot is no slouch. There's more to a great badger knot than gel tips after all. It has not shed but one hair on the initial test lather and one during a shave that was very long and doubled over. That's it. It's also got superb flow through. 

An Envy White knot has more backbone. It does not have the same dense feeling without being set at a much lower loft ratio. 

I am honestly hesitant to spend this much for a 24mm knot normally even when the consensus seems to be in agreement. I've been really very happy so far. No complaints. Everyone praising these knots is right. Impressive quality for sure.

I look forward to seeing the bulb knot. I don't have a particular handle in mind for it yet. I just felt a certain sense of urgency to get one though after using the fan. I didn't want to miss the opportunity to get another great knot. If I was into larger brushes I wouldn't hesitate to buy a bigger one either.

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 03-03-2017, 07:37 PM
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No gel after only one lather, but some of the tips have already hooked though it's not the full-blown kind that comes with a Thater. I'm going to assume there will be more to come as it breaks in. It's already plenty soft, the hair looks and feels very fine, and knot conformation is excellent. This is a 24mm knot masquerading as a 26+; it looked small when pristine but has really bloomed after being lathered, but in a controlled way. I've taken a magnifier to it and there are no black tips anywhere I can see. Amazing.

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 03-03-2017, 10:30 PM
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Anyone experiencing or feeling any glue bump in the knots? I am interested in the 3 band HMW but prefer full use of the entire loft height.

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 03-04-2017, 03:21 AM
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(03-03-2017, 10:30 PM)zaclikestoshave Wrote: Anyone experiencing or feeling any glue bump in the knots? I am interested in the 3 band HMW but prefer full use of the entire loft height.

I've tried the 24, 26, and 28mm Mountain White, and none of them had a glue bump.   However, they were all set to a low loft.

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 03-15-2017, 04:33 PM
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Mine's 24/52 (26.5/52.5 actual), and no glue bump.

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 03-15-2017, 04:41 PM
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No lumps
No bumps in any that I own

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 03-15-2017, 06:35 PM
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No glue bump. Mine are 26mm fan knots set at 52mm. Sweet spot as far add I am concerned.

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