05-17-2017, 04:42 AM
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(05-17-2017, 03:40 AM)Panther308 Wrote: I hav been in talks with Ulrik at Koraat on making me a Damascus razor and I expressed and interest in how there Damascus was obtained and how they have it made and this was his reply:

Quote:Our damascus is true damascus. It is made from 160 layers  DIN 1.2842 and DIN 1.2767. It is forged by Balbach in Germany one of worlds most known damascus producers. He makes it in so called superclean quality, which means that the damascus is guranteed to be free of any inclusions or flaws. This is achieved by forging all 160 layers at once together under an oxygen free atmosphere. The damascus is then further forged and to create our pattern it is twisted like a candy bar.

Nonetheless etching is always necessary to make the pattern of any damascus clearly visible. We do a deep etching for some structure and then a colour etching for more contrast between the layers. 


With respect, and no intention to take anything away from koraat, top ranked as they are, i thought that etching was not part of real damascus. I am not saying that theirs is not damascus. But the truth is that there is no prohibition against etching a damascus blade. For sure that is why koraat looks so freakishly amazing!


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 05-17-2017, 05:41 AM
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topek from polish shaving forum brzytwa.org doing a great job in damascus steel

http://brzytwa.org/forum/index.php?topic...icseen#new

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 05-17-2017, 05:44 AM
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Sir with respect to your question, yes i had the same concern and it was explained to me that Damascus right out of the forge has little to no visible pattern and it is not until it's etched that the visible pattern shows up, it apparently has something to do with how the etching media reacts to the different steel layers.

Here is a video I found




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 05-17-2017, 05:59 AM
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Wow panther. Amazing. Great video. I was lost in translation. I thought that etching was something like painting the pattern on steel. I thank you very much.


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 05-17-2017, 06:19 AM
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 05-17-2017, 06:28 AM
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(05-17-2017, 06:19 AM)ischiapp Wrote: Here some fun ...
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_q...s+patterns


Amazing. Thanks.


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 05-17-2017, 07:18 AM
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(05-17-2017, 05:59 AM)carlospppena Wrote: Wow panther. Amazing. Great video. I was lost in translation. I thought that etching was something like painting the pattern on steel. I thank you very much.


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I do believe from my limited research that there is fake Damascus that is made from a single piece of steel and then a pattern in somehow put on the steel like maybe it's painted on or ground into the blade, the Damascus that Koraat has made is supposedly made from 150 layers of steel forge welded together then hammered and twisted to blend the steels to a desired pattern then some type of acid etch is used to bring out the pattern as it reacts differently to the different steels like some is etched more than the other.

I have looked at what is called "Damascus like" blades and the cost is considerably less and I mean less, most modern Damascus blades I have looked at start in the $500 range and go up depending on what you want done to the blade in regard to grind, spine work, scales etc... the cheaper Damascus like steel blades can be found for less than a few hundred dollars and even as low as $50 and I am sure the ones less than $100 are not a quaility blade.

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 05-23-2017, 10:51 AM
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[Image: 8b50ae5963c8045a73a5ae5b10954ac8.jpg]

This is what Jerry Stark has blessed me with...


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 05-23-2017, 12:49 PM
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Carlos,

That is nice, i hope it serves you well for many, many years.

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 05-23-2017, 01:02 PM
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That is a beautiful razor.  Let us know how it shaves when you get a chance!

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