03-08-2017, 10:34 PM
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I feel as if I get my best shaves from razors that hold the blade very firm. So tight that I don't feel any flexing of the blade or tugging of the hairs. Razors in my collection that hold the blade very rigid include the feather as-d2, blackbird, any single edge razor and injector razors. I get ingrown hairs, mainly on my neck, when I use razors that don't hold the blade as rigid as the razors that I mentioned. What is everyone's thoughts on the blade being held rigidly and which razors have you used that hold the blade the most rigid?

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 03-09-2017, 06:13 AM
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You would definitely like a Wolfman then.  It holds the blade very rigid.  I've tried pressing down on it and it doesn't move.  I have a Blackbird as well and the blade is a more firm on the Wolfman.

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 03-09-2017, 06:41 AM
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One word: Slants.

By applying torque to the blade (by twisting) the blade becomes much stiffer - in addition to the other benefits of using slants.

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 03-09-2017, 11:22 AM
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The Timeless Razor would definitely fall into this category. It pinches the entire width of the blade, near the edge.

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 03-09-2017, 12:53 PM
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Or the Gillette Old Type style razors...

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 03-11-2017, 05:25 PM
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I too much prefer razors that elimate blade flex. The best of course are SEs , but if you go the DE route then Wolfman is by far the best. Others that do a good job are the merkur progress (quite a curve to the blade) and the Barbaros Ajustable does a good job too.

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 03-11-2017, 06:40 PM
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Shake Sharp

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 04-17-2017, 03:58 PM
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(03-09-2017, 11:22 AM)kberga69 Wrote: The Timeless Razor would definitely fall into this category. It pinches the entire width of the blade, near the edge.


+1 on the Timeless.

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 04-18-2017, 03:53 AM
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  • EricM
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BBS-1 holds a blade very tight and flat. Easily beats all my other DEs.

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 04-18-2017, 05:03 AM
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Barbaros TR-2
Wolfman
Timeless
PILS

Infact all my stainless razors hold the blade still. Other issue is how would you actually measure blade movement? I've seen grating a soap as one measure, but hardly scientific.

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 04-23-2017, 06:25 AM
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Rigidity of blade can also be accomplished with a thicker blade. I use Kai with my more aggressive razors, which have more gap. Combinations of Joris/Kai and ATT H2/Kai feel like DE versions of straights.

I'll use Feather, GSB and Yellow SharpEdge on my milder DEs like Weber and New LC.

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 07-12-2017, 07:40 PM
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Wolfman is the best choice.

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 07-13-2017, 04:41 AM
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I have never noticed any razors that do not keep the blade rigid but then I've only been checking for a little over a half century and have only tried fifty or sixty different razors.

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 07-13-2017, 05:09 AM
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Modern razors would include any slant and Timeless.  Vintage Tech's are a cheap option if you aren't into slants.  I do feel that razors with more blade contact along cap and base do make a difference

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 07-15-2017, 03:44 AM
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  • Nero
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Just out of curiosity, how are you guys testing which ones hold the blade more or less tightly? Seems like a recipe for disaster.

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 07-15-2017, 04:54 AM
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(07-13-2017, 04:41 AM)jar Wrote: I have never noticed any razors that do not keep the blade rigid but then I've only been checking for a little over a half century and have only tried fifty or sixty different razors.

+1. Granted, I don't have comparable extensive years of DE shaving, but the concept of DE blades being more or less rigid in different razors seems like "an old gentlemen's tale," a bunch of theoretical hooey. I have a number of old and new 3 piece and TTO razors and have yet to experience blade chatter. Tighten the handle and you're good to go.

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 07-15-2017, 07:06 AM
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(07-15-2017, 03:44 AM)Nero Wrote: Just out of curiosity, how are you guys testing which ones hold the blade more or less tightly? Seems like a recipe for disaster.

The baseplate or guard holds the blade closer to the cutting edge. More blade sticking out from the baseplate, the more blade chatter. You can also increase the rigidity by torque the blade in a slant razor or putting a big bend on the blade as the timeless and progress razors. I mainly notice the difference on my ATG pass.

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 07-15-2017, 09:58 AM
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(07-15-2017, 04:54 AM)chazt Wrote: I don't have comparable extensive years of DE shaving, but the concept of DE blades being more or less rigid in different razors seems like "an old gentlemen's tale," a bunch of theoretical hooey. I have a number of old and new 3 piece and TTO razors and have yet to experience blade chatter. Tighten the handle and you're good to go.
It will cost you some money if you do not have some friends who will lend you the pieces, but you will be thoroughly de-Hooeyized; you will join the ranks of Theorists of DE Razor Blade Rigidity Differences; and perhaps even you will proselytize the Theory, if you do the following:
  1.  Get thee a Feather AS-D2 razor;
  2.  Get thee an iKon Deluxe Open Comb baseplate;
  3.  Get thee some Feather DE blades;
  4.  Shave with a Feather blade in the AS-D2;
  5.  Swap out the Feather baseplate and swap in the iKon baseplate;
  6.  Again with the Feather blade and ceteris paribus for shave prep, shave with the new configuration.
The iKon Deluxe Open Comb baseplate is a direct replacement for the safety bar baseplate of the AS-D2, but the comb of the iKon baseplate droops downward at the leading edge, leaving more of the underside of the blade unsupported than the Feather baseplate does. With a thin blade (which the Feather blade certainly is), you can actually feel the judder as you direct the razor across your beard.

/s/ Elderly Gentleman

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 07-15-2017, 05:05 PM
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Point made. But the obvious question then is, "Why?" Why bother using such a configuration; one that would knowingly result in the dreaded chattering blade? What am I missing?

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 07-16-2017, 03:16 AM
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LOL

if "The iKon Deluxe Open Comb baseplate is a direct replacement for the safety bar baseplate of the AS-D2, but the comb of the iKon baseplate droops downward at the leading edge, leaving more of the underside of the blade unsupported than the Feather baseplate does." then the Ikon baseplate is NOT a direct replacement for the Feather baseplate.


Didn't your mama teach you not to do stuff like that?

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