03-19-2017, 08:51 AM
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(03-18-2017, 02:39 PM)zykorex Wrote: Great thread! Just for completeness sake, what is the official designation of the knot in your Paladin brush?

2CSND3

From Ken's website (https://www.paladinshaving.com/pages/knot-notes):

06/04/16


2CSND3
April 2016
When ordered in March 2016, these knots were expected to match the specifications against which the 2CSNL2 knots (see above) were produced in the fourth quarter of 2015, and they generally turned out to by appearance as well as in terms of base and height dimensions. Overall, however, the 2CSND3 knots we’ve measured to date have appreciably more free-loft than the 2CSNL2s. Moreover, although we detected a bit scritch in some of the 2CSNL2 knots we trialed, so far we haven’t experienced any scritch from use of 2CSND3 knots. That said, we’ve only tested a few of them. And mileage will inevitably vary.

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 03-19-2017, 09:51 AM
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M&F on the left

Wiborg vs. Morris & Forndran (Brad Sears) 2XL Finest

Brad Sears recent collaboration with Lee Sabini has brought a resurgence to the Morris & Forndran brand.  With access to an M&F brush just a couple of clicks away, the frustration experienced by many in trying to obtain a brush has been completely removed.  There are differences in brushes purchased from Brad and those obtained directly from Lee and most are an improvement, in my opinion.  The biggest improvement is that the handles are now handmade on a lathe by Brad which is a nice upgrade over the traditionally CNC lathed models available from Lee.  As a man that appreciates skilled craftsmanship, I truly value this added touch.  While Brad and Lee have made some changes to the designs of some models, the 2XL remains true to it's heritage.  Actually this model is the same as the original XL series which featured two rings rather than the latter three, I prefer the aesthetics of the double-ring model.  Enough rambling on about the brand, lets see how it stacks up against the Wiborg.

Both the Wiborg and the M&F have excellent craftsmanship.  The handles are both well made and of a similar design.  The M&F has a nicer silhouette to my eyes and the finishing is also a bit nicer.  The knots are similarly of high quality with great shape and both lack a detectable glue bump.  The tips of the Wiborg are very fine and curled while the 2XL has straight naturally tapered ends.  I have not used this 2XL much yet and perhaps they will curl with more use.  The knot from Mr. Sabini is a bit denser, but not overly so as in the original Rooney heritage XL models.

As mentioned in the previous comparisons the tips on the Wiborg are incredibly soft, yet natural feeling rather than the gel-like feel.  The M&F isn't as soft, yet not scratchy or prickly, more inline with what I would consider scrubby.  The densely packed 2XL has a nice flannel feel, following the analogy of high thread count cotton on the Wiborg.  The splay is more controlled on the Morris & Forndran and the hairs are more resilient, giving it more backbone than the White Badger knot.  As with the previous reviews, both brushes were an absolute pleasure to face lather with.  This was another tight battle, but for my tastes the Wiborg walks away the victor.  If those tips soften up on the Brad Sears/M&F brush, though, it could easily be the winner.

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 03-20-2017, 07:34 PM
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Now of all he results, I thought for sure this would be the loss for the Wiborg.  Impressive!

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 03-22-2017, 02:19 PM
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I've been given some more time with this great brush so will be doing another head-to-head batch this weekend.  I just need to figure out which brushes to pit against it, I think it might be time to turn up the heat...

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 03-22-2017, 02:25 PM
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(03-22-2017, 02:19 PM)blzrfn Wrote: I've been given some more time with this great brush so will be doing another head-to-head batch this weekend.  I just need to figure out which brushes to pit against it, I think it might be time to turn up the heat...

Dave, the Wiborg may go undefeated.

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 03-22-2017, 08:32 PM
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(03-18-2017, 08:24 AM)blzrfn Wrote:
Today's Matchup:

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 (Paladin on left in this photo)

Paladin vs. Wiborg

Although the intent of these comparisons was to put the Wiborg up against brushes that are easier to obtain, Ken and the Dark Holler crew are making such excellent brushes that each offering sells out within minutes.  But, at least they are offered up on a regular basis at their website and occasionally secondhand on the forums.  The construction of the Paladin brushes have been second to none, especially since they brought the knot installation in-house.  They have teamed up with a very skilled knot manufacturer that is producing well formed, moderately dense knots.  Their handle design and finish work are where Paladin truly stands above the crowd.  This gives Paladin a huge advantage over Wiborg, in my opinion, as most Wiborg handle shapes seem to lack a refinement in design, most copying other manufacturer's designs, but in a less refined and typically more chunky fashion.  However, this particular Wiborg brush is ideal for my tastes in both size and shape and would probably be nearly the exact brush I would order if given the chance.

As with the Shavemac before it this Paladin has slightly softer tips than the Wiborg, although without any synthetic feel (gel-like if you wish).  I compared the Wiborg to a high-thread count cotton and the Paladin takes that same sensation and elevates it.  I have to admit part of this is due to the more controlled splay on the Falstaff, making the brush feel more dense on my face. So if both brushes have equally soft tips but one has a more controlled splay, the latter brush will have a even more luxurious feel on the skin.

As with the Shavemac before it, the Paladin feels like it has a similar density to the Wiborg.  The Paladin has a slightly shorter loft and a small glue bump giving the Falstaff less "Free Loft" as Ken calls it.  This combination gives the Paladin quite a bit more backbone than the Wiborg, I prefer the more natural feel of the Wiborg's splay but as I know with my other Paladin brushes this is easily attainable by choosing a brush with more free loft.  My current Paladin collection only consists of a couple of brushes, but if I had a brush available with a higher free loft the Paladin would walk away the unquestionable winner.  As it is I'm going to call this one a wash as both brushes were so good I didn't want to stop face lathering.
Paladin does make a very nice brush. I agree with you about the handles but I don't know what Wiborg you own but I have owned every generation of the Paladin brushes and not one can beat my Wiborg!!!! The Wiborg I own is very dense wonderful backbone and gel like pillowy tips. Handles may win with Paladin but overall I would take Wiborg any day of the,week.

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 03-24-2017, 09:51 AM
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Wiborg vs. Semogue LE (2016)

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[Image: qsIxujL.jpg]Semogue on Left

This Butterscotch Semogue LE 2016 was designed and produced for the Foro Afeitado Spanish shaving forum.  The brush uniquely features a specially selected two-band knot of natural-tipped hair in a beautifully formed bulb shape and as always the knot is set in a metal ring.  The handles by Semogue have always left me wanting a little more, but even though the design and color aren't exactly breath-taking on this model, it does feel great in hand.  In the aesthetics battle the Wiborg wins the handle portion, but the tidy knot of the Semogue is undeniably more appealing.

On to the talent portion of our competition.  Again, I used both brushes for today's shave, one for the first pass and the other for the second.  The brushes are nowhere near similar in use.  The Semogue has a much firmer backbone due to the bulb shape and glue bump and has very little splay.  The Wiborg, as already mentioned several times in these posts, splays rather easily with moderate backbone.  The Wiborg also has slightly softer tips and when compared to the Semogue, don't feel quite as natural as during the earlier comparisons.  Keeping with my high-thread count cotton reference on the Wiborg, the Semogue is like a very fine linen.  Both feel incredible on my face but the Semogue almost allows each individual hair tip to be felt, it is an interesting sensation and one that I can say is not very common.  While I do prefer the feel of the Wiborg, the Semogue is such an interesting brush that it absolutely deserves a spot in my collection.  This Wiborg is definitely impressive and remains undefeated, so far...

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 03-24-2017, 11:42 AM
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Awesome and through reviews Sir! Thank you so much for taking the time to do this. If you still have enough time with the brush would love to hear your thoughts comparing the Wiborg to a plisson 2 band and a Simpson 2 band/SilverTip!

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 03-24-2017, 01:23 PM
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(03-24-2017, 11:42 AM)snowman Wrote: Awesome and through reviews Sir! Thank you so much for taking the time to do this. If you still have enough time with the brush would love to hear your thoughts comparing the Wiborg to a plisson 2 band and a Simpson 2 band/SilverTip!

I will have a couple more coming this weekend but will be returning the brush next week as I am leaving for vacation the following weekend.  I don't think I will involve the Plisson HMW 2-band because it is such a unique brush that really wouldn't stand up in a head-to-head comparison.  I definitely have to be in the right mood to use it because if I'm not I'll get the urge to just get rid of it, much like I did all my Rooney Finest.

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 03-24-2017, 03:16 PM
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(03-24-2017, 01:23 PM)blzrfn Wrote:
(03-24-2017, 11:42 AM)snowman Wrote: Awesome and through reviews Sir! Thank you so much for taking the time to do this. If you still have enough time with the brush would love to hear your thoughts comparing the Wiborg to a plisson 2 band and a Simpson 2 band/SilverTip!

I will have a couple more coming this weekend but will be returning the brush next week as I am leaving for vacation the following weekend.  I don't think I will involve the Plisson HMW 2-band because it is such a unique brush that really wouldn't stand up in a head-to-head comparison.  I definitely have to be in the right mood to use it because if I'm not I'll get the urge to just get rid of it, much like I did all my Rooney Finest.


Good to know about the plissons! I know the feeling!
Looking forward to the coming up reviews

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 03-25-2017, 11:07 AM
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Wiborg White Badger vs Simpson Chubby 2 2-band
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After several victories and a draw the Wiborg White Badger needed a thoroughbred competitor.  In steps the Simpson Chubby 2 Super 2-Band.  The Chubby 2 is an iconic brush with quite possibly my favorite handle shape.  The lines on the handle are beautiful and it feels great in my hand.  While many prefer exotic colors, and I admit I too enjoy some of the colorful handles, there is something about the classic faux ivory that easily stands the test of time.  While the Wiborg has engraving on two sides of the brush plus a very busy motif on the base (which I DO like) the Simpson keeps it simple with a decal and a modest engraving above it.  While the Wiborg handle designs are copies of or inspired by several of the Simpsons, the latter are more refined and seem to have lines that just flow better.

The knots are both dreamy and while both feel amazing on my face they are quite different in character.  The Wiborg uses a lovely fan shape with no glue bump allowing some nice splay while maintaining moderate backbone.  The Simpson has a perfectly shaped bulb and a small glue bump making the backbone rather firm yet because of the thin hairs it does splay a little and feels even softer on the face.  Both brushes have tips that feel natural, in other words aren't gel-like.  The Chubby's tips are darker than that of the Wiborg but yet are even softer, it literally feels like a large luxurious cotton swab when lathering.  I have owned a half dozen 2-band Chubbys over the years and every single one has been an instant favorite.  I have reduced my collection to two, this one and a bespoke "SiLVERTiP" model which is sans glue bump and set at an even lower loft.  I struggled with which to choose for this match-up, but I think the results would have been similar.  It is a close call, but I got to go with the classic Simpson Chubby as the victor. 

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 03-25-2017, 11:11 AM
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(03-25-2017, 11:07 AM)blzrfn Wrote:
Wiborg White Badger vs Simpson Chubby 2 2-band
  It is a close call, but I got to go with the classic Simpson Chubby as the victor.  

Yep. There is nothing like a Chubby 2 in 2 Band of the 2011-13 batch!

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 03-25-2017, 11:14 AM
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The Wiborg has met it's match, and it's no surprise it's a CH2 2-band.

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 03-25-2017, 03:50 PM
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There it is.  That really isn't a fair fight at all.  The Chubby 2 2-band with the Super label is the best brush in my den.  I don't think there is a single brush out there that could beat it in a head to head.

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 03-25-2017, 05:16 PM
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(03-25-2017, 03:50 PM)grantmm Wrote: There it is.  That really isn't a fair fight at all.  The Chubby 2 2-band with the Super label is the best brush in my den.  I don't think there is a single brush out there that could beat it in a head to head.
What are all you people drinking

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 03-25-2017, 05:48 PM
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(03-25-2017, 11:11 AM)German Wrote:
(03-25-2017, 11:07 AM)blzrfn Wrote:
Wiborg White Badger vs Simpson Chubby 2 2-band
  It is a close call, but I got to go with the classic Simpson Chubby as the victor.  

Yep. There is nothing like a Chubby 2 in 2 Band of the 2011-13 batch!

I have to agree.  It is without a doubt one of the most amazing brushes ever in my book.

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Wiborg White vs. The Varlet Mega v1.0
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The Varlet Mega on the left

The Varlet came to market almost two years ago with immediate acclaim.  Reintroducing a completely handmade brush, made entirely here in the USA, by one man's own pair of hands, The Varlet proved that American brush craftsmanship was not indeed dead.  Although there are some serious issues keeping up with the demand, those of us lucky enough to acquire a brush from Aldo have almost unanimously praised his efforts.  This brush is the original incarnation of the Mega which is an unique design that gives homage to the Chubby, yet stands on it's own with it's well thought out curves.  The Wiborg, meanwhile, is a variant of the XL series from Rooney which Florian has pulled off very well.  Some of the other Wiborg designs seem a bit too clunky and unrefined for my tastes, but this Marshall looks very compelling when sitting next to all of the brushes in these comparisons.  Both brushes look great and they also feel comfortable in hand.  The finishing on The Varlet is a bit better in both polish and branding, but the Wiborg is no slouch.

The knots on these brushes share some similarities, but also behave quite differently in use.  The finished Finest badger knot on The Varlet isn't perfect with several stray hairs protruding above the others, however the shape of the knot is FANtastic and is packed, but not overly so, with velvety tipped hair.  The sensation on my face is as soft as it gets without having a true gel-like feel.  When starting to face lather The Varlet feels rather firm until a small amount of pressure is applied at which point it splays rather easily.  When the pressure is reduced the knot quickly returns to a precision controlled state allowing the lather to be painted on right where it's needed.  The Wiborg splays a bit easier, and in opposition to The Varlet, the backbone is more resilient as the pressure increases.  I should point out that I never mash a brush against my face, I am only applying a very light pressure, just enough to mix in the water additions to the lather already on my face and on subsequent passes to release the lather from the knot.  Much like yesterday's comparison with the Chubby 2, I didn't want to put either brush down as the lathering experience was so enjoyable with both.  This is another very close battle, however The Varlet [to me] walks away the winner due to it's slightly softer tips and the original and ergonomic handle design.

This is the last head-to-head comparison I will be doing as I need to send this brush back to it's rightful owner before leaving on vacation.  I thank you all for taking the time to read my reviews and again for sharing your thoughts.  I don't expect everybody to agree with my findings and that is with good reason.  We all have different tastes in brushes, whether they be slight or vast, and the most important difference (and the reason I buy and sell so many brushes) is that we are dealing with [mostly] natural products with variations in hair batches and being handmade allows for variations in both handles and knots.  I can say with certainty that this Wiborg brush is definitely a top-tier performer, but it is also the only Wiborg brush I have had the pleasure of trying.  I will continue my quest to acquire one of these brushes and can only hope that Florian returns to a level of production that will allow all of us brush aficionados an opportunity to purchase one.

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 Yesterday, 10:57 AM
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Enjoyed the comparisons, Dave. Thanks for putting together a great thread.

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(Yesterday, 10:07 AM)blzrfn Wrote:
Wiborg White vs. The Varlet Mega v1.0
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The Varlet Mega on the left

The Varlet came to market almost two years ago with immediate acclaim.  Reintroducing a completely handmade brush, made entirely here in the USA, by one man's own pair of hands, The Varlet proved that American brush craftsmanship was not indeed dead.  Although there are some serious issues keeping up with the demand, those of us lucky enough to acquire a brush from Aldo have almost unanimously praised his efforts.  This brush is the original incarnation of the Mega which is an unique design that gives homage to the Chubby, yet stands on it's own with it's well thought out curves.  The Wiborg, meanwhile, is a variant of the XL series from Rooney which Florian has pulled off very well.  Some of the other Wiborg designs seem a bit too clunky and unrefined for my tastes, but this Marshall looks very compelling when sitting next to all of the brushes in these comparisons.  Both brushes look great and they also feel comfortable in hand.  The finishing on The Varlet is a bit better in both polish and branding, but the Wiborg is no slouch.

The knots on these brushes share some similarities, but also behave quite differently in use.  The finished Finest badger knot on The Varlet isn't perfect with several stray hairs protruding above the others, however the shape of the knot is FANtastic and is packed, but not overly so, with velvety tipped hair.  The sensation on my face is as soft as it gets without having a true gel-like feel.  When starting to face lather The Varlet feels rather firm until a small amount of pressure is applied at which point it splays rather easily.  When the pressure is reduced the knot quickly returns to a precision controlled state allowing the lather to be painted on right where it's needed.  The Wiborg splays a bit easier, and in opposition to The Varlet, the backbone is more resilient as the pressure increases.  I should point out that I never mash a brush against my face, I am only applying a very light pressure, just enough to mix in the water additions to the lather already on my face and on subsequent passes to release the lather from the knot.  Much like yesterday's comparison with the Chubby 2, I didn't want to put either brush down as the lathering experience was so enjoyable with both.  This is another very close battle, however The Varlet [to me] walks away the winner due to it's slightly softer tips and the original and ergonomic handle design.

This is the last head-to-head comparison I will be doing as I need to send this brush back to it's rightful owner before leaving on vacation.  I thank you all for taking the time to read my reviews and again for sharing your thoughts.  I don't expect everybody to agree with my findings and that is with good reason.  We all have different tastes in brushes, whether they be slight or vast, and the most important difference (and the reason I buy and sell so many brushes) is that we are dealing with [mostly] natural products with variations in hair batches and being handmade allows for variations in both handles and knots.  I can say with certainty that this Wiborg brush is definitely a top-tier performer, but it is also the only Wiborg brush I have had the pleasure of trying.  I will continue my quest to acquire one of these brushes and can only hope that Florian returns to a level of production that will allow all of us brush aficionados an opportunity to purchase one.
I appreciate your honesty but you just stated the biggest problem you only tried one Wiborg brush. The Wiborg brushes that I own come out on top of the chubby 2 and the Varlet which has great workmanship. My Wiborg has soft tips they are gel-like. So your comparisons have a major flaw...

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(Yesterday, 01:36 PM)rawfox1 Wrote:
(Yesterday, 10:07 AM)blzrfn Wrote:
Wiborg White vs. The Varlet Mega v1.0
[Image: Z4ezOxh.jpg][Image: GdboVag.jpg]
The Varlet Mega on the left

The Varlet came to market almost two years ago with immediate acclaim.  Reintroducing a completely handmade brush, made entirely here in the USA, by one man's own pair of hands, The Varlet proved that American brush craftsmanship was not indeed dead.  Although there are some serious issues keeping up with the demand, those of us lucky enough to acquire a brush from Aldo have almost unanimously praised his efforts.  This brush is the original incarnation of the Mega which is an unique design that gives homage to the Chubby, yet stands on it's own with it's well thought out curves.  The Wiborg, meanwhile, is a variant of the XL series from Rooney which Florian has pulled off very well.  Some of the other Wiborg designs seem a bit too clunky and unrefined for my tastes, but this Marshall looks very compelling when sitting next to all of the brushes in these comparisons.  Both brushes look great and they also feel comfortable in hand.  The finishing on The Varlet is a bit better in both polish and branding, but the Wiborg is no slouch.

The knots on these brushes share some similarities, but also behave quite differently in use.  The finished Finest badger knot on The Varlet isn't perfect with several stray hairs protruding above the others, however the shape of the knot is FANtastic and is packed, but not overly so, with velvety tipped hair.  The sensation on my face is as soft as it gets without having a true gel-like feel.  When starting to face lather The Varlet feels rather firm until a small amount of pressure is applied at which point it splays rather easily.  When the pressure is reduced the knot quickly returns to a precision controlled state allowing the lather to be painted on right where it's needed.  The Wiborg splays a bit easier, and in opposition to The Varlet, the backbone is more resilient as the pressure increases.  I should point out that I never mash a brush against my face, I am only applying a very light pressure, just enough to mix in the water additions to the lather already on my face and on subsequent passes to release the lather from the knot.  Much like yesterday's comparison with the Chubby 2, I didn't want to put either brush down as the lathering experience was so enjoyable with both.  This is another very close battle, however The Varlet [to me] walks away the winner due to it's slightly softer tips and the original and ergonomic handle design.

This is the last head-to-head comparison I will be doing as I need to send this brush back to it's rightful owner before leaving on vacation.  I thank you all for taking the time to read my reviews and again for sharing your thoughts.  I don't expect everybody to agree with my findings and that is with good reason.  We all have different tastes in brushes, whether they be slight or vast, and the most important difference (and the reason I buy and sell so many brushes) is that we are dealing with [mostly] natural products with variations in hair batches and being handmade allows for variations in both handles and knots.  I can say with certainty that this Wiborg brush is definitely a top-tier performer, but it is also the only Wiborg brush I have had the pleasure of trying.  I will continue my quest to acquire one of these brushes and can only hope that Florian returns to a level of production that will allow all of us brush aficionados an opportunity to purchase one.
I appreciate your honesty but you just stated the biggest problem you only tried one Wiborg brush. The Wiborg brushes that I own come out on top of the chubby 2 and the Varlet which has great workmanship. My Wiborg  has soft tips they are gel-like. So your comparisons have a major flaw...

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I think your post rather proves my point, but my opinion is far from flawed.  Would you be only satisfied if the Wiborg won every comparison?  Could it be also said that your opinion is flawed then?

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