06-09-2017, 01:53 PM
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Those of you that know me, know that I am a fan of old-school soaps/fragrances/razors. I have been devouring the recent appearance of a stash of NOS Art of Shaving products. Most are familiar with the ebay seller and the AOS Tallow pucks, but lately there have been a few sellers marketing the Tallow Lemon and Lavender Pucks. Also, some really magnificent Balms/Gels/and Oils. Now, there have been the threads lamenting the recipe changes of Geo F. Trumper, Penhaligons, Williams, etc. etc. So I won't start a new one. 
So here are my choices as I see them; I can go to the AOS Store and for $50, purchase a bowl and soap that won't lather, OR I can peruse the auction site and buy a Lavender Puck with wooden Bowl for $29.95 shipped. AND...it lathers! And how does it lather.
So, here I am, waiting for my wife to get ready, see, it's our 33 wedding anniversary, and we're going out to dinner, and thinking to myself, What knuckleheads are running these companies anyway? Can you say: "New Coke"?
I am out of here...
Thanks for reading.

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 06-09-2017, 02:00 PM
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  • eengler
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Good question PrimoSmile

Happy Anniversary, Enjoy the evening out!

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 06-09-2017, 02:56 PM
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Amen Brother Primo.

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 06-09-2017, 04:13 PM
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I get the sense that those in the corporate hierarchy who make these decisions are not into traditional shaving themselves, and don't closely follow the activity on the forums.

Happy Anniversary Primo.

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 06-09-2017, 04:14 PM
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(06-09-2017, 02:56 PM)Mouser Wrote: Amen Brother Primo.
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(06-09-2017, 04:13 PM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: I get the sense that those in the corporate hierarchy who make these decisions are not into traditional shaving themselves, and don't closely follow the activity on the forums.

Happy Anniversary Primo.
Thank you Ricardo.

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 06-09-2017, 05:07 PM
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Happy Anniversary, Primo!

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 06-09-2017, 05:28 PM
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I'm with you on pursuing the good stuff that works.

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 06-09-2017, 05:41 PM
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Happy anniversary!!

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 06-09-2017, 06:17 PM
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  • evnpar
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Happy Anniversary, Primo. I just received my vintage pucks of Lemon and Lavender this week. Many happy shaves ahead!

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 06-10-2017, 02:56 AM
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(06-09-2017, 05:07 PM)chazt Wrote: Happy Anniversary, Primo!

(06-09-2017, 05:41 PM)wreck | fish Wrote: Happy anniversary!!

(06-09-2017, 06:17 PM)evnpar Wrote: Happy Anniversary, Primo. I just received my vintage pucks of Lemon and Lavender this week. Many happy shaves ahead!

Thanks everyone. 

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 06-10-2017, 06:10 AM
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Happy Anniversary Primo!  

..and Amen to the vintage stuff.

Soaps
watches
suits/clothing
pens
etc....

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 06-10-2017, 06:14 AM
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(06-10-2017, 06:10 AM)Steelman Wrote: Happy Anniversary Primo!  

..and Amen to the vintage stuff.

Soaps
watches
suits/clothing
pens
etc....
Thanks Ron.
I had a fantastic vintage AOS shave today. I have no idea how this could be proved, but I want to see a modern (artisan or not...semantics) soap that performs better than AOS Tallow. 

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 06-10-2017, 07:16 AM
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Happy Anniversary Primo!

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 06-10-2017, 03:12 PM
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(06-10-2017, 06:10 AM)Steelman Wrote: Happy Anniversary Primo!  

..and Amen to the vintage stuff.

Soaps
watches
suits/clothing
pens
etc....

Yes, amen to the vintage stuff.  I know I've taken it a bit over the top. 100% of my razors are vintage.  100% of the blades I use are vintage.  About a third of my brushes, soaps and creams are vintage or at least of the discontinued variety. 
But it is what it is.

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 06-10-2017, 06:30 PM
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(06-10-2017, 07:16 AM)ultra~nova Wrote: Happy Anniversary Primo!
Thank you Corey.

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 06-12-2017, 12:14 PM
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A big corporation that can save 1 cent per puck of soap will do it.  That's probably why tallow was taken out of the AoS pucks.

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 06-12-2017, 08:37 PM
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The shareholders chasing short term profits over long term growth & customer retention.

AoS cream remains pretty darn good. Their soap really isn't a huge part of their repertoire. Same for GFT and the like. Cream is where it's at for them.

As for why they reformulated, you can thank the vegetarians and general populace for being tallow sensitive.

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 06-13-2017, 12:09 AM
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(06-12-2017, 08:37 PM)WetShavingProducts Wrote: The shareholders chasing short term profits over long term growth & customer retention.

AoS cream remains pretty darn good. Their soap really isn't a huge part of their repertoire. Same for GFT and the like. Cream is where it's at for them.

I would agree.

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 06-16-2017, 12:17 PM
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(06-10-2017, 06:14 AM)primotenore Wrote:
(06-10-2017, 06:10 AM)Steelman Wrote: Happy Anniversary Primo!  

..and Amen to the vintage stuff.

Soaps
watches
suits/clothing
pens
etc....
Thanks Ron.
I had a fantastic vintage AOS shave today. I have no idea how this could be proved, but I want to see a modern (artisan or not...semantics) soap that performs better than AOS Tallow. 

I've tried something like 400 different soaps and creams. Conclusion: Don't bother holding your breath!!! You have found the best, period. For me it's not even a discussion. I'm happy to try other things but I have no expectations that anything will ever match the AoS tallow.

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 06-16-2017, 12:26 PM
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(06-16-2017, 12:17 PM)Nero Wrote:
(06-10-2017, 06:14 AM)primotenore Wrote:
(06-10-2017, 06:10 AM)Steelman Wrote: Happy Anniversary Primo!  

..and Amen to the vintage stuff.

Soaps
watches
suits/clothing
pens
etc....
Thanks Ron.
I had a fantastic vintage AOS shave today. I have no idea how this could be proved, but I want to see a modern (artisan or not...semantics) soap that performs better than AOS Tallow. 

I've tried something like 400 different soaps and creams. Conclusion: Don't bother holding your breath!!! You have found the best, period. For me it's not even a discussion. I'm happy to try other things but I have no expectations that anything will ever match the AoS tallow.
As I reread my last post, it is clear that I was unclear! My statement was more of a challenge, than a real wish. I agree with you that the AOS Tallow (AND early formula post shave balms and gels) are top shelf products. That's why I have been hoarding them.  Blush ...and Tallow Williams... Biggrin

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