06-14-2017, 04:43 PM
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Hi,

    My understanding is that shaving brush bristles rank in softest to stiffest/most backbone like this:

softest---> badger, plisson synthetic, horse mane hairs, horse tail hairs, boar hair <----stiffest/most backbone

Is this correct?

Also; generally speaking, which type of bristle hair is it easiest to work up a good lather with?

Thank you

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 06-14-2017, 04:47 PM
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I've only used badger and boar, but either of those, in a quality brush with good backbone, work for me. I'd say generally the badger has more backbone than the boar, and doesn't require the break in, but I've only had two boars, and a whole herd of badgers. I prefer a good badger with a 25mm - 26mm knot and a 50-52mm loft. YMMV.

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 06-14-2017, 04:49 PM
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Synthetic brushes, especially the plisson style knots, work up shave-ready lather the fastest.

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 06-14-2017, 05:00 PM
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Synthetic brushes are very easy to create lather with.

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 06-14-2017, 05:05 PM
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Easiest: synthetic
Best lather: badger

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 06-14-2017, 05:06 PM
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Easiest, definitely synthetics. Honestly, I don't think there is a best. It just takes practice and familiarity with the soap and brush you are using.

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 06-14-2017, 05:38 PM
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(06-14-2017, 04:49 PM)SweetReason Wrote: Synthetic brushes, especially the plisson style knots, work up shave-ready lather the fastest.

(06-14-2017, 05:00 PM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: Synthetic brushes are very easy to create lather with.

(06-14-2017, 05:05 PM)mike_the_kraken Wrote: Easiest: synthetic
Best lather: badger

(06-14-2017, 05:06 PM)NickMach007 Wrote: Easiest, definitely synthetics. Honestly, I don't think there is a best. It just takes practice and familiarity with the soap and brush you are using.

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One more vote for synthetic being the easiest to make lather with.

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 06-14-2017, 07:48 PM
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I find that all my brushes (boar, horse, horse-badger, boar-badger, and cheap badger) are all easy to make lather with... in fact, the ease of making lather have more to do with what soap I'm using than what brush.

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 06-14-2017, 08:33 PM
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Well, it sounds like I might have to buy my first badger brush. I already have two plisson type synthetic brushes. They both seem to take me a long time to work up any kind of lather worth a darn with. I was getting ready to buy my first boar brush to see if that made it easier for me, but after reading a few comments here, it sounds like what I'm really needing is "quality" lather, not "easiest" or "fastest" lather.

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 06-14-2017, 08:40 PM
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I think that synthetic is where it is at but beyond that, I wouldn't know much different each natural hair brush would be from each other. I am most familiar with badger and then boar.

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 06-14-2017, 09:20 PM
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(06-14-2017, 05:00 PM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: Synthetic brushes are very easy to create lather with.

This!

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 06-14-2017, 09:36 PM
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(06-14-2017, 08:33 PM)punchy Wrote: Well, it sounds like I might have to buy my first badger brush. I already have two plisson type synthetic brushes. They both seem to take me a long time to work up any kind of lather worth a darn with. I was getting ready to buy my first boar brush to see if that made it easier for me, but after reading a few comments here, it sounds like what I'm really needing is "quality" lather, not "easiest" or "fastest" lather.

When I used a synthetic brush, I got the best results when I started with an almost completely dry brush. Load for 40 seconds or longer. Then go to face lathering. Once face is covered, I dip my free hand into the water and let 5 or so drops fall into the center of the knot by splaying out the hairs. Go back to face lathering. Continue to add a few drops of water every 20-30 seconds. I add a total of 20-35 drops of water depending on the soap, I also like a wet slick lather. Work on your soap to water ratio. You can get a quality lather with any brush.

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 06-15-2017, 05:01 AM
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You can create great lather from a paint brush. 

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 06-15-2017, 05:24 AM
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I only have one horse brush, but each time I use it I am surprised at how soft it actually is (although my particular brush has less backbone than my badger or boar brushes). I also find that badger can have some incredible backbone and softness, but it really depends on the knot.

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 06-15-2017, 05:54 AM
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(06-14-2017, 07:48 PM)WegianWarrior Wrote: I find that all my brushes (boar, horse, horse-badger, boar-badger, and cheap badger) are all easy to make lather with... in fact, the ease of making lather have more to do with what soap I'm using than what brush.

+1.

Synthetic are the easiest, but if I am using the same soap, the difference between ease of making lather is very very small when comparing synthetics, badgers, boars, horse. 

If I am using the same brush and different soaps, the difference in ease of making lather is more noticeable. 

I much prefer badgers over an other bristle. The difference for me is heat retention and the luxurious natural feeling badgers offer.

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 06-15-2017, 07:54 AM
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I guess I'll have to buy my first badger brush then....   Where to start in selecting one? ...  (scratches head)..

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 06-15-2017, 08:15 AM
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 06-15-2017, 09:05 AM
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(06-14-2017, 09:36 PM)SweetReason Wrote: When I used a synthetic brush, I got the best results when I started with an almost completely dry brush. Load for 40 seconds or longer. Then go to face lathering. Once face is covered, I dip my free hand into the water and let 5 or so drops fall into the center of the knot by splaying out the hairs. Go back to face lathering. Continue to add a few drops of water every 20-30 seconds. I add a total of 20-35 drops of water depending on the soap, I also like a wet slick lather. Work on your soap to water ratio. You can get a quality lather with any brush.

That’s a lot of work!  Do you do that every time you shave?  

You can save a lot of time and effort if you start with that .dry. brush and have the water and the soap integrated — that is, well mixed together — rather than introducing them to the brush separately.  In other words, try the (link☞) Kumquat Method.

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 06-15-2017, 09:51 AM
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For badger, I liked the way my last Paladin knot produced lather, along with its great face feel.
For synthetics, it was easy and comfy to work up lather with the Tuxedo knot.

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 06-15-2017, 10:17 AM
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(06-15-2017, 09:05 AM)Mel S Meles Wrote:
(06-14-2017, 09:36 PM)SweetReason Wrote: When I used a synthetic brush, I got the best results when I started with an almost completely dry brush. Load for 40 seconds or longer. Then go to face lathering. Once face is covered, I dip my free hand into the water and let 5 or so drops fall into the center of the knot by splaying out the hairs. Go back to face lathering. Continue to add a few drops of water every 20-30 seconds. I add a total of 20-35 drops of water depending on the soap, I also like a wet slick lather. Work on your soap to water ratio. You can get a quality lather with any brush.

That’s a lot of work!  Do you do that every time you shave?  

You can save a lot of time and effort if you start with that .dry. brush and have the water and the soap integrated — that is, well mixed together — rather than introducing them to the brush separately.  In other words, try the (link☞) Kumquat Method.

I was stating that method because it's a no-fail way to create lather. I have always produced the best lather by adding a few drops of water till I get the lather the way I want instead of putting all the water in the brush at one time. I don't use synthetics anymore, but I do the same method with my badger brushes except I start with a damp badger brush.

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