06-14-2017, 08:41 PM
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Hello. I have an Edwin Jagger 89 DE. Today when I put the blade in it and tried to secure it by rotating the handle, it rotated all the way, without staying in place. I can even pull the handle out. The middle screw from the cap looks in bad shape, so I think that's the problem. I don't know for sure though. I have been using Cif Bathroom Ultrafast for a month about twice a week on the razor. Maybe that's what caused the problem.

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 06-14-2017, 08:57 PM
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Some pictures could help diagnose the problem and causes... even if a quick google reveals that the product you been using isn't really meant for cleaning razors.

/Edit: "Great cleaning for all ceramic, chrome, enamel and stainless steel surface". Your razor is made from none of those things... the cleaner probably worked it's way through a weak spot in the chrome plating and ate away the cast metal - even more likely if you didn't rinse it all off and it was left to stew as it were - a hypothesis that is consistent with where you describe the trouble started; the threads.

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 06-14-2017, 09:17 PM
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The screw on the EJ razors is definitely the Achilles Heal. Usually, it just snaps off.

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 06-14-2017, 10:18 PM
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(06-14-2017, 08:57 PM)WegianWarrior Wrote: Some pictures could help diagnose the problem and causes... even if a quick google reveals that the product you been using isn't really meant for cleaning razors.

/Edit: "Great cleaning for all ceramic, chrome, enamel and stainless steel surface". Your razor is made from none of those things... the cleaner probably worked it's way through a weak spot in the chrome plating and ate away the cast metal - even more likely if you didn't rinse it all off and it was left to stew as it were - a hypothesis that is consistent with where you describe the trouble started; the threads.
I was recommended Cif Bathroom Ultrafast as an alternative to bleach free Scrubbing Bubbles. How should I clean a safety razor.

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 06-15-2017, 12:17 AM
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Did you specify what sort of razor you were going to use it on in that thread? Judging by the product labeling it should work well on a modern stainless razor, but personally I would not use it on a brass or zamak razor.

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 06-15-2017, 10:08 AM
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(06-15-2017, 12:17 AM)WegianWarrior Wrote: Did you specify what sort of razor you were going to use it on in that thread? Judging by the product labeling it should work well on a modern stainless razor, but personally I would not use it on a brass or zamak razor.

I did specify that I was going to use it on my Edwinn Jagger 89 DE.

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 06-15-2017, 10:22 AM
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Sounds like the threads on the top cap are severely stripped. I don't have any idea if that cleaner could cause that damage, but cleaning your razor with a heavy chemical cleaner twice a week is extreme overkill. Give it a rinse between shaves, a wipe down maybe weekly, and a gentle scrub with a soft cloth and dish soap monthly or so if you'd like. If you plan to sell it, clean it with the soap and then give it a dip in barbicide to disinfect. Razors do not require a very intense cleaning regimen.

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 06-15-2017, 10:56 AM
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(06-15-2017, 10:22 AM)Blackland Razors Wrote: Sounds like the threads on the top cap are severely stripped. I don't have any idea if that cleaner could cause that damage, but cleaning your razor with a heavy chemical cleaner twice a week is extreme overkill. Give it a rinse between shaves, a wipe down maybe weekly, and a gentle scrub with a soft cloth and dish soap monthly or so if you'd like. If you plan to sell it, clean it with the soap and then give it a dip in barbicide to disinfect. Razors do not require a very intense cleaning regimen.
I have hard water. If I don't use a toothbrush soap scum will form.

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 06-15-2017, 11:19 AM
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(06-15-2017, 10:56 AM)Alex7 Wrote:
(06-15-2017, 10:22 AM)Blackland Razors Wrote: Sounds like the threads on the top cap are severely stripped. I don't have any idea if that cleaner could cause that damage, but cleaning your razor with a heavy chemical cleaner twice a week is extreme overkill. Give it a rinse between shaves, a wipe down maybe weekly, and a gentle scrub with a soft cloth and dish soap monthly or so if you'd like. If you plan to sell it, clean it with the soap and then give it a dip in barbicide to disinfect. Razors do not require a very intense cleaning regimen.
I have hard water. If I don't use a toothbrush soap scum will form.

A toothbrush is fine. I just don't recommend chemical cleaners and certainly not very often. Like I said, this all may have nothing to do with the razor issues.

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 06-15-2017, 11:37 AM
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(06-15-2017, 11:19 AM)Blackland Razors Wrote:
(06-15-2017, 10:56 AM)Alex7 Wrote:
(06-15-2017, 10:22 AM)Blackland Razors Wrote: Sounds like the threads on the top cap are severely stripped. I don't have any idea if that cleaner could cause that damage, but cleaning your razor with a heavy chemical cleaner twice a week is extreme overkill. Give it a rinse between shaves, a wipe down maybe weekly, and a gentle scrub with a soft cloth and dish soap monthly or so if you'd like. If you plan to sell it, clean it with the soap and then give it a dip in barbicide to disinfect. Razors do not require a very intense cleaning regimen.
I have hard water. If I don't use a toothbrush soap scum will form.

A toothbrush is fine. I just don't recommend chemical cleaners and certainly not very often. Like I said, this all may have nothing to do with the razor issues.

A close up photo of the threads might help us figure that out... they might have gotten stripped out from other reasons.

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 06-15-2017, 08:08 PM
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Here are some pics with my razor: http://xomf.com/g/fdpzy

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 06-15-2017, 08:48 PM
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The threads on the top cap don't look too bad to me in the photo but to me they do look corroded and not stripped... if you have a similar issue with the threads in the handle, I can see why it won't screw together properly.

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 06-16-2017, 06:56 AM
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What should I buy for a second safety razor? I was thinking of a Muehle R89 or a Parker 26C.

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 06-16-2017, 07:44 AM
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(06-16-2017, 06:56 AM)Alex7 Wrote: What should I buy for a second safety razor? I was thinking of a Muehle R89 or a Parker 26C.

How much $$ do you want to spend?

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 06-16-2017, 07:45 AM
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I like the Merkur 33c (or 34c, same head geometry) at that $25-$35 price point.

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 06-16-2017, 07:51 AM
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(06-16-2017, 06:56 AM)Alex7 Wrote: What should I buy for a second safety razor? I was thinking of a Muehle R89 or a Parker 26C.


The EJ DE89 and Muhle R89 are the same heads. Only the handles are different.

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 06-16-2017, 01:50 PM
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(06-16-2017, 07:45 AM)Blackland Razors Wrote: I like the Merkur 33c (or 34c, same head geometry) at that $25-$35 price point.

Good suggestions. I'm fond of my 42c. Same head, different handle. Same price point, too. Bought mine from BG. Great service, speedy shipping.

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