06-21-2017, 04:59 PM
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  • Quando
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I am curious:

Is anyone else, here, a citizen/subject of a nation which requires Compulsory Military Service?  Or, if your country is all volunteer, did you volunteer?  I moved around, as a kid, on my own, to get into good schools, and, as circumstance would have it, it was better for me to acquire foreign citizenship.  I ended up serving a number of countries, but, really just 3, because, after my injuries, the other countries, which required it, pretty much let me off with just a couple of weeks of service.  (It hurts to walk).  

So, I served the Swiss, the French, and, the Austrians.  I would feel more comfortable withholding my regimental information.  


Conscription is much different, from volunteer service, I think.   I wish France still had it.  

Did anyone else go to Afghanistan, and/or, Iraq?

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 06-21-2017, 05:29 PM
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  • Sully
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Interesting post Quando.  My country has an all volunteer force, the reality is that it's really an all recruited force.  

How many countries have you been a citizen of?

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 06-22-2017, 01:18 AM
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  • Shaun
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No conscription in Australia.

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 06-22-2017, 02:00 AM
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Norway still have conscription, and our neighbours to the east - Sweden - reintroduced it this year.

The big difference from when I joined up and now is that back then people fought to get out, but now they compete to get in. Fewer conscripts are taken in each year, so we get to choose the best, the brightest and the most eager... not a bad thing in my opinion.

Officers and NCOs are technically volunteers I guess... in that they have to apply for school, have to apply for postings and can quit any time after a mandatory period of service (usually one to one with time spent during education; a one year of school means one year of service. Those who quit don't get to retire early though, nor any of the other benefits such as long days, low pay, and the option of being sent abroad to get shot at Tongue

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 06-22-2017, 03:37 AM
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Conscription in mine. Approx 5m people in the country of which probably 3m-3.5m are citizen. Conscription is 1yr10 months or 2 years whereby the first 3 months is basic military training and the next 3-6 months you specialised in something before serving the rest of your 2 years.

Around 72k personnel and a million reserves

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Armed_Forces

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 06-22-2017, 06:09 AM
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When I was much younger we had conscription. That was during the Vietnam war. I don't remember where my number was on the list, but I wasn't doing much so I volunteered. I figured that no matter where my number was in the draft I had a better chance of getting what I wanted and posting where I wanted to be if I had some control. It worked. Instead of Vietnam I spent the rest of my 3 years in West Germany. Of course I could have gone to Vietnam (or anywhere in the world) if I had wanted to since my MOS and other training was in demand, but no thanks. Germany was a fine place to spend 2.5 years. I got there and had a cushy job. Then to top it off, the last few months I slept in and played tennis (seriously). I slept through an IG inspection during my tennis playing months.

The other differences between the draft when the USA had it and volunteering was one extra year of service for volunteers. But to have one extra year and have some control so as not to get shot at? The year was cheap "insurance". I'm here so it worked out.

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 06-23-2017, 04:47 AM
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(06-21-2017, 05:29 PM)Sully Wrote: Interesting post Quando.  My country has an all volunteer force, the reality is that it's really an all recruited force.  

How many countries have you been a citizen of?

Several.  So many, I have lost track of the total, because in some I became a full citizen, and, others, simply a resident alien.  It is quite easy, to move around, in the EU.  At least, it was.  In some countries, it is easier.  Some, I gave up citizenship, some I retained, so, the total number, escapes me, at the minute.  

I have lived all over the world, due to having been a child prodigy.  I am proud, though, to have served.  Those feel like more "my" countries, having worn the uniform, and, been shot at, with other men from the same country, really ties me, to them, I think.

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 06-23-2017, 04:50 AM
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Where I grew up military service was compulsory starting at 16 with cadets and training camps during school holidays. After leaving secondary school one completed basic training and did 2 years in the regular army after which one served in the Territorials.  Initially we trained with Lee Enfield 303's, but these were replaced by FN's.  I also trained on a Bren gun and I think I can still strip it down and reassemble it blindfolded; it was a great, reliable weapon.  This was over 50 years ago so my memory is a bit cloudy.

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 06-23-2017, 06:13 AM
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I volunteered for the Marines back in 1982.  The U.S. is all voluntary and with my son going through the enlistment process right now I found out that they can be picky.  Back when I served there were guys that had the option of jail or military - those days are gone.

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