07-17-2017, 04:59 PM
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  • doc47
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I have these brush for possible trade but only for 2CL knot codes. These are all 2CS knotted brushes I have for trade. 
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Paladin Lapis Luizi Buck Rodgers 26mm badger brush, 51.5 loft (2CSNL3 knot) 
Paladin Jade Winston 26mm badger brush, 53mm loft (2CSLE4 knot)
Paladin Butterscotch Buck Rogers 28 mm badger brush, 55.75mm loft (2CSLD4 knot)
Paladin Malachite El Dorado 28mm badger brush, 55.5mm loft (2CSLD4 knot)
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 07-17-2017, 05:16 PM
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What does 2cs and 2cL mean-anybody?

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 07-17-2017, 05:51 PM
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(07-17-2017, 05:16 PM)vpayne Wrote: What does 2cs and 2cL mean-anybody?

They are the codes Ken uses to identify a hair type? Not sure if type is the right term here.

S- short

L- long

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 07-17-2017, 05:58 PM
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Thanks. Doesn't tell me much. If I don't understand, then a good rule is to pass.

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 07-17-2017, 06:13 PM
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(07-17-2017, 05:58 PM)vpayne Wrote: Thanks. Doesn't tell me much. If I don't understand, then a good rule is to pass.


On the Paladin website it goes a detailed description of the knot codes. This is very helpful in describing the knots. Both are soft but I believe the S are a little scrubbier than the L.

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 07-17-2017, 07:38 PM
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Darn, I have a 2CLND3 lemondrop lotus, but am looking for an ebony or ivory lotus. I don't have all the specifics on the 2CL knots, but they are great! Gorgeous brushes, good luck in your search Doc.

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 07-17-2017, 09:16 PM
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Each Paladin has a code in the upper right corner of its picture. They begin 2CL or two-band, from China, long hair. The 2CS knot is two-band, from China, short hair. The 4th letter is to describe any secondary knot characteristic if there is one. The last letter number sequence stand for month and year the knot arrived at the Paladin workshop, Months are A - January, B - February, C - March, etc..The letter at the end tells the orgin year of the knot; 1 standing for the 1st year of Paladin operation and the 4 standing for this, the current year of operation (they have been in business 4 years). Hope this helps.

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 07-17-2017, 11:47 PM
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Sherlock has been swapped.

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 07-18-2017, 12:07 PM
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Lotus has been swapped. A trade for the Disco PK-47 is in the works.

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 07-18-2017, 03:15 PM
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Beautiful stuff! Wish I had one to trade LOL

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 07-18-2017, 03:18 PM
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(07-18-2017, 03:15 PM)Sskim3 Wrote: Beautiful stuff! Wish I had one to trade LOL
Me too! Wink

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 07-18-2017, 03:45 PM
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Thanks Doc47. That helps some....

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 07-18-2017, 04:46 PM
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(07-18-2017, 03:45 PM)vpayne Wrote: Thanks Doc47. That helps some....
Vic, just remember that Ken created these codes for his record keeping, not ours. Understanding the code as a user is very esoteric and completely unnecessary in order to enjoy one of his brushes. Basically the "L" knots have less backbone than the "S" knots.  I know, fascinating isn't it (LOL)?

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 07-19-2017, 07:36 AM
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PM Sent

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 07-19-2017, 07:45 AM
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(07-18-2017, 04:46 PM)doc47 Wrote:
(07-18-2017, 03:45 PM)vpayne Wrote: Thanks Doc47. That helps some....
Vic, just remember that Ken created these codes for his record keeping, not ours. Understanding the code as a user is very esoteric and completely unnecessary in order to enjoy one of his brushes. Basically the "L" knots have less backbone than the "S" knots.  I know, fascinating isn't it (LOL)?

Can any Paladin knots be described as 'scritchy', or prickly, the way a Shavemac DO-1 two band is ? If so, which code would be the one to look for ?

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 07-19-2017, 09:03 AM
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(07-19-2017, 07:45 AM)JimmyH Wrote:
(07-18-2017, 04:46 PM)doc47 Wrote:
(07-18-2017, 03:45 PM)vpayne Wrote: Thanks Doc47. That helps some....
Vic, just remember that Ken created these codes for his record keeping, not ours. Understanding the code as a user is very esoteric and completely unnecessary in order to enjoy one of his brushes. Basically the "L" knots have less backbone than the "S" knots.  I know, fascinating isn't it (LOL)?

Can any Paladin knots be described as 'scritchy', or prickly, the way a Shavemac DO-1 two band is ? If so, which code would be the one to look for ?

Not in my experience.  While the S knots have more back bone and may have more "scrub".  They are still very soft without a touch "scritch."

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 07-19-2017, 09:32 AM
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(07-19-2017, 07:45 AM)JimmyH Wrote:
(07-18-2017, 04:46 PM)doc47 Wrote:
(07-18-2017, 03:45 PM)vpayne Wrote: Thanks Doc47. That helps some....
Vic, just remember that Ken created these codes for his record keeping, not ours. Understanding the code as a user is very esoteric and completely unnecessary in order to enjoy one of his brushes. Basically the "L" knots have less backbone than the "S" knots.  I know, fascinating isn't it (LOL)?

Can any Paladin knots be described as 'scritchy', or prickly, the way a Shavemac DO-1 two band is ? If so, which code would be the one to look for ?
Jimmy, the one thing that you can say about Paladin brushes is that they have very soft tips. It is a characteristic that Ken has been working hard to achieve. Backbone may vary but both the S and L knots have very soft tips; I have 19 and none have scritchiness at all, even out of the box the knot tips are soft.

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 07-19-2017, 10:02 AM
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(07-19-2017, 09:03 AM)Whiskey Sour Wrote:
(07-19-2017, 07:45 AM)JimmyH Wrote:
(07-18-2017, 04:46 PM)doc47 Wrote: Vic, just remember that Ken created these codes for his record keeping, not ours. Understanding the code as a user is very esoteric and completely unnecessary in order to enjoy one of his brushes. Basically the "L" knots have less backbone than the "S" knots.  I know, fascinating isn't it (LOL)?

Can any Paladin knots be described as 'scritchy', or prickly, the way a Shavemac DO-1 two band is ? If so, which code would be the one to look for ?

Not in my experience.  While the S knots have more back bone and may have more "scrub".  They are still very soft without a touch "scritch."

(07-19-2017, 09:32 AM)doc47 Wrote:
(07-19-2017, 07:45 AM)JimmyH Wrote:
(07-18-2017, 04:46 PM)doc47 Wrote: Vic, just remember that Ken created these codes for his record keeping, not ours. Understanding the code as a user is very esoteric and completely unnecessary in order to enjoy one of his brushes. Basically the "L" knots have less backbone than the "S" knots.  I know, fascinating isn't it (LOL)?

Can any Paladin knots be described as 'scritchy', or prickly, the way a Shavemac DO-1 two band is ? If so, which code would be the one to look for ?
Jimmy, the one thing that you can say about Paladin brushes is that they have very soft tips. It is a characteristic that Ken has been working hard to achieve. Backbone may vary but both the S and L knots have very soft tips; I have 19 and none have scritchiness at all, even out of the box the knot tips are soft.

Thanks gentlemen, I like a bit of scrtich myself. Soft has its place too though. I can appreciate soft with backbone, not without.

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 07-19-2017, 10:36 AM
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Here is what is currently available for trade:
Paladin Ivory PK-47 28mm badger brush, 52.25mm loft (2CSNL2 knot)
Paladin Tigris Perla PK-47 28mm badger brush, 55.25mm loft (2CSLD4)
Paladin Satin Ivory Cleo 26 mm badger brush, 53.25 loft  (2CSLE4 knot)
Paladin Jade Winston 26mm badger brush, 53mm loft (2CSLE4 knot)
2nd row:
Paladin Malachite El Dorado 28mm badger brush, 55.5mm loft (2CSLD4 knot)
Paladin Lapis Luizi Buck Rodgers 26mm badger brush, 51.5 loft (2CSNL3 knot)
Paladin Butterscotch Buck Rogers 28 mm badger brush, 55.75mm loft (2CSLD4 knot)
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 07-19-2017, 10:59 AM
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Do the Paladin knots have the strong backbone of the shavemac Do1 2 band?

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