08-04-2017, 12:37 PM
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I recently bought my first Merkur 34G.  I love this razor.  Handle length, aggressiveness/effectiveness and balance are perfect for me.  I just wish it wasn't Zamac.  Does anyone with 34C/G experience know which vintage Gillette or modern stainless (3" handle) shaves more or less the same?  I have zero interest in adjustable razors and currently own:
Old Types, Techs pre and post, Super Speeds (40's and Flares), and Long Comb NEWs as well as an ASD2 and a Fatip Grande (which is a little much for me).  I'm wondering which ATT solid bar Atlas (M1,R1 or H1) might approximate the 34?  The Super Speeds, Techs and even the NEWs seem a little mild never mind the ASD2.  It's also my understanding that a red tip is slightly milder than a 34.  So what suggestions do you guys have.  I could just sell everything but my two Old Types and buy enough 34's to last a lifetime of Zamac.

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 08-04-2017, 12:44 PM
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  • nikos.a
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I'd suggest you to buy a couple backups to feel safe

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 08-04-2017, 01:28 PM
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  • DayMan
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I started with a Merkur 1904, which I think is the same head as the 34c. I have the ATT M2 and I think it's pretty similar to the Merkur. It's maybe a little more efficient. It has a smaller gap, but more exposure. I actually like the extra blade feel on the M2 though. It helps me with my technique.

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 08-05-2017, 04:50 AM
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  • chazt
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I have Merkurs, Techs and Red Tips. Pay no attention to blade gap numbers. Get a Red Tip.

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 08-05-2017, 04:52 AM
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  • chazt
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Fwiw, my Merkurs show no indication of the fabled and much dreaded Zamak rot.

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 08-05-2017, 07:19 AM
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Yes Charlie, I've been curious about the red tip.  I had Google searched for comparisons re: Gillettes vs Merkur 34c and found a few threads on various forums where some owners felt the red tip was slightly milder than the 34.  I don't use the blade gap chart very much as it seems to have contradictory information such as different measurements for the 23c vs the 34c when it's been generally accepted that the Merkur closed comb heads are the same.  I really like the 34, and I actually like all my vintage Gillettes as well.  Last night's shave was an Old Type and it's likely the most effective of the Gillettes I own.  But I was very surprised at just how good the 34 was and really wished I had tried one sooner.  Perhaps the real answer is the razor that will shave the most like a 34 is a 34.

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 08-05-2017, 08:02 AM
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Although I'm certainly no expert, I think that Zamak Rot occurs only if the chrome plated finish is breached. This would occur by dropping or by allowing the crud to build up without cleaning. So we're back to the old adage -- if you take care of the tool, the tool will take care of you. Keep it clean and don't drop it.

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 08-05-2017, 08:29 AM
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  • nikos.a
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Or don't accidentally hit it.

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 08-05-2017, 10:13 AM
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IMO the Weber DE razor shaves a lot like the Merkur 34C.  Looks like one too.  
If I were looking for a SS razor that shaved a lot like the 34C, I'd look at a Weber.

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 08-05-2017, 10:46 AM
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(08-05-2017, 08:02 AM)slackskin Wrote: Although I'm certainly no expert, I think that Zamak Rot occurs only if the chrome plated finish is breached. This would occur by dropping or by allowing the crud to build up without cleaning. So we're back to the old adage -- if you take care of the tool, the tool will take care of you. Keep it clean and don't drop it.

This is only part of the story and very true. The threaded post breaking away from the top cap is also very common.

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 08-05-2017, 11:19 AM
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  • DayMan
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I might be wrong, but I think the vintage Merkurs are also zamak, so maybe the new ones will last just as long.

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