09-08-2017, 09:05 AM
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The Timeless (.095) and Blackbird both arrived in my den last week and I've had a chance to try them both twice with a Polsilver blade

Both razors are extremely high quality and feature perfect machining.

The Timeless is a bit more aggressive than I was expecting, but not too bad. It's a big beast of a razor and I love the unique look. I feel like I could break a window out with this thing. Lots of weight, but still nicely balanced.

The Blackbird has a much different character. It's feels like it's built for speed and has that exotic sports car vibe going. It took me a minute to find the correct cutting angle (shallow is where it like to be). There is a bit of a learning curve with this guy, but holy cats, it gave me perhaps the best shave of my life. Perfect.

The better shave experience...? so far it's the Blackbird for me... but again, I only have 2 shaves with each and they are both quite different!

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 09-08-2017, 09:20 AM
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Very interesting, thanks.

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 09-08-2017, 10:07 AM
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  • ARGH
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  • Boston, MA
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I had the same experience when compared my Timeless and BB razors about a year ago. Since then my both Timeless razors found their new home  but my BBs are not going anywhere.

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 09-08-2017, 10:57 AM
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Blackbird is unique.


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 09-08-2017, 12:18 PM
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I have had every Timeless configuration along with the Blackbird SB and I personally felt the Blackbird was more aggressive than the Timeless .95 open comb. Funny how that works with each individual.

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 09-08-2017, 04:51 PM
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  • Nero
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  • le montagne
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The BB is amazing.
I returned two Timeless, they were very nice, just not for me.

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 09-08-2017, 06:42 PM
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  • chamm
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  • Central Ohio
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I thoroughly enjoy my Timeless razors. They are definitely top-tier in terms of build quality as well as smoothness and quality of shave. They will stay on my collection. (At least the .95. Not sure about the .68.)

However, to my face and beard, the Blackbird is absolutely unbeatable. I have tried multiple instances of both the machined and the polished versions, and I have NEVER achieved anything short of a _perfect_ shave from the Blackbird.

I currently use the BB for 9 out of 10 shaves. I can't imagine any razor is ever going to knock it out of my top spot. (Although that probably won't stop me from trying.)

Disclosure: Shane (owner of Blackland Razors) is a personal friend. To the best of my ability, this in no way impacts my opinion of the Blackbird razor.

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 09-08-2017, 08:31 PM
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  • JRRIII
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  • East Coast
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This thread certainly peaks my interest in BB, before now I haven't ever given them much thought

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 09-09-2017, 12:32 AM
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My polished Blackbird SB paired with a Gillette Nacet beats everything. Marvelous shaves everytime.

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 09-09-2017, 04:07 AM
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I've had both. My Timeless was a .95 SB smooth, polished on a pineapple handle. Had to be the best razor I've used and made me sell my Wolfman. Got my polished long handle Blackbird SB and well... The Timeless found a new home. I've gotten back into straights again but my Blackbird will always be in my den. Absolutely love that razor!

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 09-09-2017, 04:31 AM
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  • slr31
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  • Garden City, India
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I own both and my experience is that the Timeless 0.95 SB is a notch smoother than the BlackBird SB but a notch less efficient also. I just love shaving with the BB whereas the Timeless is collecting dust. I also love the simpler design of the BB.

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 09-10-2017, 08:19 AM
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  • Nero
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  • le montagne
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Well that wasn't a very close fight. Who's next?

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 09-10-2017, 08:51 AM
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  • chamm
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  • Central Ohio
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LOL - How about Personna Med Preps vs. Lab Blues. :-D

For those who haven't had the pleasure to read this age-old debate; a quick search will turn up multiple threads with hundreds of pages with everything from dubious anecdotal stories from "people in the know," to scanning electron microscopy, (no kidding!) all heatedly debating this topic.

As yet, there really isn't a solid consensus on whether they even come out of different machines at the factory. Highly recommended if you want to kill an afternoon and be absolutely no better off than when you started.

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 09-10-2017, 11:36 AM
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I've had the BB OC, the Timeless Ti 0.68 scalloped and 0.95 OC.

The Blackbird is a thing of beauty, but was just too aggressive for daily shaving for me in the end. The Timeless 0.68 is perfect as a daily driver, and the 0.95 is great when I've skipped a few days between shaves.

The BB is, in my opinion a touch more aggressive than the 0.95 Timeless. Both are wonderfully made razors.

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 09-10-2017, 03:58 PM
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I've owned many top tier razors and the Bird is the Word.

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 09-10-2017, 04:19 PM
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  • MaxP
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  • Madison, WI
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The reason I sold my BB was the handle. I missed having the heavy knurl of an Ikon or Weber

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 09-10-2017, 04:40 PM
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(09-10-2017, 04:19 PM)MaxP Wrote: The reason I sold my BB was the handle.  I missed having the heavy knurl of an Ikon or Weber

Why not change the handle?  I, too, felt the handle was the weakness with the BB, so i married the BB head to a Wolfman WRH-1 Brushed Stainless handle.  Perfect combo.

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 09-10-2017, 05:56 PM
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FYI: Stork Razor Handles is starting to produce BB specific Handles, there is a Ti AND SS version on 'the bay', but hey ARE expensive ($125).
I imagine they will produce some other 'models' at some point.

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 09-10-2017, 06:13 PM
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  • MaxP
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(09-10-2017, 04:40 PM)Never2Close Wrote:
(09-10-2017, 04:19 PM)MaxP Wrote: The reason I sold my BB was the handle.  I missed having the heavy knurl of an Ikon or Weber

Why not change the handle?  I, too, felt the handle was the weakness with the BB, so i married the BB head to a Wolfman WRH-1 Brushed Stainless handle.  Perfect combo.

(09-10-2017, 05:56 PM)akbkr23 Wrote: FYI: Stork Razor Handles is starting to produce BB specific Handles, there is a Ti AND SS version on 'the bay', but hey ARE expensive ($125).
I imagine they will produce some other 'models' at some point.

NOW I learn of this...sheesh

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 09-15-2017, 05:59 AM
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  • chamm
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  • Central Ohio
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Most of the handles I have fit the Blackbird head perfectly. (There are a couple with very small tops that go inside the hole in the baseplate.)

It's entirely possible that I'm missing something, but is there a downside to just using a handle and covering the hole? In terms of engineering, if this were a load-bearing structure, I believe that this design would weaken the joint, but you'd need hundreds or thousands of pounds of force to snap that threaded post. Unless you are standing on it, I just can't see a significant difference.

I'm not being argumentative - I honestly want to know if there's another reason I hadn't considered. I'm OK with the stock handle, but I've used others on occasion, and I want to make sure I'm not messing something up.  Smile

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