01-06-2018, 08:08 AM
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(12-30-2017, 09:08 AM)TropicalHotDog Wrote:
(12-27-2017, 10:19 AM)Ilnones Wrote: That strikes me as odd in such a high-end shaving soap.

That's exactly why it's a high-end soap. DRH does not go overboard with scent strength, like most of the American companies. They intentionally keep their scents subtle and understated, and that adds to the appeal.

On the other hand, it would be nice if the scents were just a bit stronger. I sold my Windsor puck because the "soapy" base was overpowering the actual fragrance in an unpleasant way. The scent strength for the creams seems to be just about right. If you want to try the aftershaves, they are actually quite strong.

These days, I have lost interest in obnoxious overly-scented soaps, and come to prefer unscented or lightly scented soaps. I'm considering picking up a puck of DRH again, because they make such a great soap, and I appreciate the subtlety more and more.

I am not sure I agree.  Two years ago I purchased Windsor because I already had Arlington.  While the scent was weak I still liked the product.  I read the description of Windsor's scent on the net which described all of the fragrances you can smell in it such as "...complex fragrance which starts with overtones of citrus and grapefruit, and matures into tones of black pepper and vetyver" and decided to purchase it.  That description came from D.R. Harris website.  The first time I used it, it appeared fragrance free but decided that it may get stronger with continued use; it did not.  I sent them an email indicating that my puck may have came from a substandard batch (you do know that none of the British companies make their own soap), they were not pleased with my email and said that they have tested the product and it produces outstanding fragrances.  And maybe it was me.  I have smelled Windsor from a friend and it was as different as day and night.  I have experienced irregularities in British soaps before such as Edwin Jagger.  Quality control of the products they purchase for resale would help.

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 01-06-2018, 08:56 AM
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As a side note, Windsor is a TdH clone.

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 01-06-2018, 09:14 AM
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(01-06-2018, 08:56 AM)nikos.a Wrote: As a side note, Windsor is a TdH clone.


A pretty good clone too.


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 01-07-2018, 11:14 AM
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D. R. Harris reformulated their pucks some time in 2017; performance is better than ever, imo. 
(Tallowate is now the first ingredient.)

Btw, T&H reformulated their pucks too, ~ 1.5 years ago.

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 01-07-2018, 11:20 AM
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(01-07-2018, 11:14 AM)ask4Edge Wrote: D. R. Harris reformulated their pucks some time in 2017; performance is better than ever, imo. 
(Tallowate is now the first ingredient.)

Btw, T&H reformulated their pucks too, ~ 1.5 years ago.

How’s the T&H now? It’s one of my favorite scents but the two or three versions I’ve tried were subpar lathers.

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 01-07-2018, 01:15 PM
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(01-07-2018, 11:14 AM)ask4Edge Wrote: D. R. Harris reformulated their pucks some time in 2017; performance is better than ever, imo. 
(Tallowate is now the first ingredient.)

Btw, T&H reformulated their pucks too, ~ 1.5 years ago.


And you've kept this to yourself ?!?!! Biggrin

Great information!!

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 01-07-2018, 01:51 PM
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(01-07-2018, 11:20 AM)TYdeFan05 Wrote: How’s the T&H now?  It’s one of my favorite scents but the two or three versions I’ve tried were subpar lathers.

Much better; no problem now making a stable and protective lather, ime. Essentially on par with the new DRH, in term of performance, imo.

Scent of my new 1805 hard soap is just like the 1805 cream, albeit not as intense. 

Per the LOI, the new version has no paraffinum liquidum (mineral oil), among other changes.


(01-07-2018, 01:15 PM)Nero Wrote: And you've kept this to yourself ?!?!! Biggrin 

Great information!!

Hahaha.
The cat is finally out…Smile

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 01-07-2018, 01:52 PM
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(01-07-2018, 01:51 PM)ask4Edge Wrote:
(01-07-2018, 11:20 AM)TYdeFan05 Wrote: How’s the T&H now?  It’s one of my favorite scents but the two or three versions I’ve tried were subpar lathers.

Much better; no problem now making a stable and protective lather, ime. Essentially on par with the new DRH, in term of performance, imo.

Scent of my new 1805 hard soap is just like the 1805 cream, albeit not as intense. 

Per the LOI, the new version has no paraffinum liquidum (mineral oil), among other changes.

1805 shave soap? I have been living under a rock!

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 01-07-2018, 04:05 PM
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(01-07-2018, 01:51 PM)ask4Edge Wrote:
(01-07-2018, 11:20 AM)TYdeFan05 Wrote: How’s the T&H now?  It’s one of my favorite scents but the two or three versions I’ve tried were subpar lathers.

Much better; no problem now making a stable and protective lather, ime. Essentially on par with the new DRH, in term of performance, imo.

This is interesting!
Meanwhile, I have gotten confirmation from the T&H customer service (Toronto) that they still use Sodium Palmate (SP) first... but you're confirming that the lather is rich and stable?

I wonder why, in the past, this was a sure recipe for disaster. (With exception of vintage C&E Sweet Almond Oil and current PdP no.63.)

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 01-07-2018, 04:06 PM
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(01-07-2018, 01:51 PM)ask4Edge Wrote:
(01-07-2018, 01:15 PM)Nero Wrote: And you've kept this to yourself ?!?!! Biggrin 

Great information!!

Hahaha.
The cat is finally out…Smile

Thank you Smile

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 01-08-2018, 08:59 AM
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(01-07-2018, 04:05 PM)Nero Wrote:
(01-07-2018, 01:51 PM)ask4Edge Wrote:
(01-07-2018, 11:20 AM)TYdeFan05 Wrote: How’s the T&H now?  It’s one of my favorite scents but the two or three versions I’ve tried were subpar lathers.

Much better; no problem now making a stable and protective lather, ime. Essentially on par with the new DRH, in term of performance, imo.

This is interesting!
Meanwhile, I have gotten confirmation from the T&H customer service (Toronto) that they still use Sodium Palmate (SP) first... but you're confirming that the lather is rich and stable?

I wonder why, in the past, this was a sure recipe for disaster. (With exception of vintage C&E Sweet Almond Oil and current PdP no.63.)

Indeed, so was pleasantly surprised by the improved stability/protection/slickness.


Old:
Sodium Palmate, Potassium Stearate, Sodium Cocoate, Sodium Stearate, Aqua, Potassium Cocoate, Glycerin, Parfum, Paraffinum Liquidum, Tetrasodium EDTA, Sodium Chloride, Isopropyl Myristate, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Limonene, Linalool, Tetrasodium Etidronate, Hydroxyisohexyl-3-Cyclohexene Carboxaldehyde, BHT, Benzyl Salicylate, Eugenol, CI-77891


New:
Sodium Palmate, Potassium Palmate, Aqua, Potassium Stearate, Potassium Palm Kernelate, Sodium Cocoate, Glycerin, Sodium Stearate, Sodium Palm Kernelate, Parfum, Palm Kernel Acid, Titanium Dioxide, Sodium Chloride, Tetrasodium Etidronate, Pentasodium Pentetate, Sodium Gluconate, Tetrasodium EDTA, Limonene, Butylphenyl Methylpropional,, Linalool, Hydroxyisohexyl 3-Cyclohexene, Carboxaldehyde, Benzyl Benzoate, Eugenol.

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 01-08-2018, 09:12 AM
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Btw, Sodium Tallowate is the first ingredient in the new D. R. Harris, as is the case with Czech & Speake.

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 01-08-2018, 11:26 AM
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(01-08-2018, 09:12 AM)ask4Edge Wrote: Btw, Sodium Tallowate is the first ingredient in the new D. R. Harris, as is the case with Czech & Speake.

That is a true matter!

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 01-08-2018, 11:28 AM
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(01-08-2018, 08:59 AM)ask4Edge Wrote:
(01-07-2018, 04:05 PM)Nero Wrote:
(01-07-2018, 01:51 PM)ask4Edge Wrote: Much better; no problem now making a stable and protective lather, ime. Essentially on par with the new DRH, in term of performance, imo.

This is interesting!
Meanwhile, I have gotten confirmation from the T&H customer service (Toronto) that they still use Sodium Palmate (SP) first... but you're confirming that the lather is rich and stable?

I wonder why, in the past, this was a sure recipe for disaster. (With exception of vintage C&E Sweet Almond Oil and current PdP no.63.)

Indeed, so was pleasantly surprised by the improved stability/protection/slickness.


Great to know!

Btw, have you tried any of the Bath House soaps?
Apparently they lather well too (now), and they have SP first.

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 01-08-2018, 01:14 PM
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(12-30-2017, 09:08 AM)TropicalHotDog Wrote: These days, I have lost interest in obnoxious overly-scented soaps, and come to prefer unscented or lightly scented soaps. I'm considering picking up a puck of DRH again, because they make such a great soap, and I appreciate the subtlety more and more.

I just got my puck of DRH Almond. The scent from the puck is nonexistent. The scent when lathered is a faint, pleasant hint of dry, bitter almond flower. It's nothing like the sweet, marzipan scent of the cream/most other almond products. I like it. It's very tastefully scented, and decidedly British.

For what it's worth, Proraso Green Tea and Oat balm pairs perfectly with it! I think that green tea is a perfect match for almond flower.

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 01-08-2018, 01:25 PM
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The Almond scent is very nice. And I agree, nothing like the well known Italian soft soaps.

If only the scents were a bit more intense. Let's say a 6.5 out of 10. Now they are like a 3.5.

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 01-08-2018, 04:50 PM
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(01-08-2018, 11:28 AM)Nero Wrote: Btw, have you tried any of the Bath House soaps?
Apparently they lather well too (now), and they have SP first.

Haven’t tried that particular brand. But my perspective on sodium-first formulations (now) has tilted.

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 01-08-2018, 06:39 PM
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(01-08-2018, 04:50 PM)ask4Edge Wrote:
(01-08-2018, 11:28 AM)Nero Wrote: Btw, have you tried any of the Bath House soaps?
Apparently they lather well too (now), and they have SP first.

Haven’t tried that particular brand. But my perspective on sodium-first formulations (now) has tilted.

I have Bath House Spanish Fig and it is a great soap.

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 01-08-2018, 07:20 PM
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(01-08-2018, 06:39 PM)Tidepool Wrote:
(01-08-2018, 04:50 PM)ask4Edge Wrote:
(01-08-2018, 11:28 AM)Nero Wrote: Btw, have you tried any of the Bath House soaps?
Apparently they lather well too (now), and they have SP first.

Haven’t tried that particular brand. But my perspective on sodium-first formulations (now) has tilted.

I have Bath House Spanish Fig and it is a great soap.


Thanks for that. I might have to check it out Wink

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 01-09-2018, 11:53 AM
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Don't they have the nicest wood bowls...


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