01-30-2018, 01:08 PM
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I am thinking of buying the Omega 21762 Italian Flag Handle brush but I am concerned that it may be too big for face-lathering. It has a 64mm loft.
If you have used this brush any inputs would be helpful. Thanks 

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 01-30-2018, 01:20 PM
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I'm familiar with it.  It's arguably the nicest boar Omega offers.  I like the knot diameter but find the loft too high.  As a result of the high loft, the brush splays more, and has less backbone, than I prefer.  However, there certainly are many knowledgeable shavers who think highly of this brush.

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 01-30-2018, 03:09 PM
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I have one, and it's one of my favorite bowl latherers.  It's not great for face lathering when newish, because of the long stiff bristles, although you could make it work.  After a few dozen uses, the knot splays and the bristle-tips split, and that's when the brush really shines.  At that point it would make a serviceable (if not ideal) face-latherer.   Face lathering doesn't seem to be its designed purpose or forte.

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 01-30-2018, 03:16 PM
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It is similar, if not the same, to the Omega Pro line. I'd say it's not suitable for face-lathering.

By the way, Omega brushes are really nice and you can buy them at an affordable price.

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 01-30-2018, 04:34 PM
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I don't have one, but if it's similar to the Omega Pro, I think it will work. Why not? Then again I shave in the shower. I fling soap all the place on a regular basis. Standing at the sink I would have to adjust my tecnigue.

Nice looking brush. Is the handle resin or wood?

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 01-30-2018, 04:36 PM
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(01-30-2018, 04:34 PM)bakerbarber Wrote: Is the handle resin or wood?

Most probably plastic.

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 01-30-2018, 05:11 PM
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(01-30-2018, 04:34 PM)bakerbarber Wrote: I don't have one, but if it's similar to the Omega Pro, I think it will work. Why not? Then again I shave in the shower. I fling soap all the place on a regular basis. Standing at the sink I would have to adjust my tecnigue.

Nice looking brush. Is the handle resin or wood?

The handle is solid resin.  Others have said it has nice weight to it.

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 01-31-2018, 05:35 AM
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I think I am going to give this brush a try. It looks really good and made well too.

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 01-31-2018, 07:10 AM
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I've seen this discussion arise with regard to face lathering and another big Omega, the 48.
Somebody pointed out a video of how Italian barbers wield it -- with the base of the handle in the palm and the fingertips at the base of the knot.
That way it can and does work well as a face-latherer.

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 01-31-2018, 11:28 AM
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(01-31-2018, 07:10 AM)Rory1262 Wrote: I've seen this discussion arise with regard to face lathering and another big Omega, the 48.
Somebody pointed out a video of how Italian barbers wield it -- with the base of the handle in the palm and the fingertips at the base of the knot.
That way it can and does work well as a face-latherer.

I noticed that some Italian barbers will choke up on the bristles to have more control of it. I'm not sure I want to do that.

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 01-31-2018, 12:11 PM
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I've seen the videos of barbers holding boar brushes by the base of the knot instead of the handle.  It's a practical adaptation to deal with a loft that is too high.  I would just get a boar with a lower loft.

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 01-31-2018, 12:47 PM
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I already have the Thater boar and a B&B 10th Anniversary boar brush, I just thought the Omega 21762 might be a good one to add to my collection. I suppose I could use it just for bowl-lathering.

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 01-31-2018, 04:57 PM
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I’ve got one and my issue is not that it can’t be used for face lathering, it can... however after soaking for days on end multiple times and palm lathering everyday for literally 4 months it still is the most prickly brush I’ve ever used, it’s loaded with extra thick black hairs... I’ve got around 10 boar brushes and this one is by far the least comfortable. I’m assuming it’s this particular bristle on this brush as I’ve heard others say they are luxurious...

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 01-31-2018, 05:30 PM
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(01-31-2018, 04:57 PM)Pomfretsteve Wrote: I’ve got one and my issue is not that it can’t be used for face lathering, it can... however after soaking for days on end multiple times and palm lathering everyday for literally 4 months it still is the most prickly brush I’ve ever used, it’s loaded with extra thick black hairs... I’ve got around 10 boar brushes and this one is by far the least comfortable. I’m assuming it’s this particular bristle on this brush as I’ve heard others say they are luxurious...

That's odd because someone on another forum said this brush (Omega 21762) has the finest boar hair of any brush he has seen.

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 01-31-2018, 07:43 PM
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I use this size face lathering often.  Palm the handle and choke up by grabbing the bristles and you control exactly how big the face feel is

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 01-31-2018, 08:06 PM
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I have the Pro #48 & #49 and find the loft to be a bit excessive when face-lathering, but nothing that would deter me from using it as they are great brushes, especially, for their price. 
However, I would much prefer the loft to be below 60mm, where 55-56mm would be perfect, in my opinion. 
Good luck.

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 02-01-2018, 04:54 AM
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Thank you gentlemen for those precise answers.

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 02-01-2018, 08:17 PM
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I have high loft pro (48 in gold) and don't care much for it.
It works just fine but it I find it splays too much when pressed, mediocre backbone.
Holding it like an Italian barber and chocke the knot with the fingers makes sense for a barber but not for me. To staft with, I don't like getting my hand full of lather. A barber can't shave all his clients the same way, and some wouldn't like a strong scrub, so the brush needs to be somewhat adjustable.

The Proraso Pro, which is an Omega Pro with a short loft is my favorite brush period. The shorter loft makes everything right: good backbone, controlled splay - perfect. 

Another two interesting options:
Connaught Shaving occasionally commissions a special order from Omega called Premium. The current one is very nice. The bristles are very fine, finer than usual for Omega, set very low in a classy lathe turbed handle, so the backbone is definitely there.

Zenith Big Scrubby, similar fine bristles, short loft in a nice Aluminum handle. It is very nice, great for creams. Mine took a long time to stop shedding, and it still loses a hair every now and then.

The Proraso Pro has the strongest backbone. I only face lather.

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 02-01-2018, 08:24 PM
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Left to right:
Zenith, 48, Proraso Pro, 011829 Premium

My recommendation goes for the Proraso Pro.
The Omega is very nice though and this picture doesn't do it justice.

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 02-01-2018, 09:00 PM
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I concur on the proraso. I can’t find a better boar and I keep trying


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