02-10-2018, 07:02 AM
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Would I prefer the Ti 2, instead of the 17-4? There is much to like about the 17-4, but I wish it just shaved off a tad less of my skin.  I hear the Ti 2 is a tad more mild compared to the 17-4.  Thoughts from anyone who has both?  If it is more mild, by how much?

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 02-10-2018, 08:44 AM
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(02-10-2018, 07:02 AM)NJDJ Wrote: Would I prefer the Ti 2, instead of the 17-4? There is much to like about the 17-4, but I wish it just shaved off a tad less of my skin.  I hear the Ti 2 is a tad more mild compared to the 17-4.  Thoughts from anyone who has both?  If it is more mild, by how much?


In theory they are the same because the head design is the same. But in reality the ti 2 is a little milder but just as efficient. I think this is because it lighter and maybe just the nature of titanium that helps it glide? A I know is I typically use an astra and have no problem throwing in a feather.


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 02-10-2018, 10:26 AM
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I believe it’s the weight. My Timeless .95 open comb Ti shaves very different than .95 open comb stainless.


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 02-10-2018, 06:32 PM
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For me the Titanium 2 is slightly milder than the 17-4, but still retains the same efficiency.

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 02-11-2018, 09:53 AM
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I have changed the original handle of my 17-4 to a longer titanium one which is also 20gr. lighter. I didn't see any drop in efficiency.

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 02-11-2018, 10:34 AM
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(02-11-2018, 09:53 AM)kyproset Wrote: I have changed the original handle of my 17-4 to a longer titanium one which is also 20gr. lighter. I didn't see any drop in efficiency.

I did the same.

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 02-11-2018, 12:35 PM
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The most important thing should be the efficiency - mild or not. The design is the same.

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 02-11-2018, 01:52 PM
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(02-11-2018, 12:35 PM)SOriginaria Wrote: The most important thing should be the efficiency - mild or not. The design is the same.

The weight of the handle as well as the length of it, do play a role in the overall performance of a head.

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 02-11-2018, 05:18 PM
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I would think a lighter handle would transfer the weight balance more to the head, giving more pressure and more chance of irritation. Not sure what everyone’s experience is. Just my 2 cents worth.

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 02-12-2018, 03:45 AM
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(02-11-2018, 01:52 PM)kyproset Wrote:
(02-11-2018, 12:35 PM)SOriginaria Wrote: The most important thing should be the efficiency - mild or not. The design is the same.

The weight of the handle as well as the length of it, do play a role in the overall performance of a head.
Of course, mate. Never said the opposite. That also makes the efficiency. Not the mildness. A razor could have a little blade feel and give a very efficient shave. This is the point in the shavegear IMHO.

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 03-13-2018, 10:50 AM
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I have a Wolfman SB standard gap 0.61. I get no irritation but sometimes I wish it were maybe a bit more aggressive or shall I say efficient. I don't want to give up the smoothness and irritation free shave. Is the 17-4 very aggressive compared to the Wolfman 0.61? The OP in the 1st comment mentioned that the 17-4 takes too much of his skin off. That kind of scared me.

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 03-13-2018, 11:07 AM
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I don't have the Wolfman but I have the 17-4 and if I use no pressure, the shave is efficient and smooth. It's so smooth in fact that on my first attempts to shave with it I used more pressure than necessary (and cut myself) because I was thinking it wasn't cutting. Once learned however, I don't think the extra efficiency comes into play much, as the smoothness more than makes up for it if no pressure is used.

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 03-13-2018, 05:30 PM
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Another great shave with the Ti2 tonight. I think it is as smooth as my Wolfman.61 was but much more efficient.

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 03-13-2018, 09:42 PM
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No longer have the Wolfman 0,61 (gave it to a friend as I prefered the 0,74) but for me the 17-4 is the more efficiënt and smoother shaver.

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 03-14-2018, 08:27 PM
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I found myself using a little more pressure on the Titanium II due to the weight difference from the 17-4. That in turn caused more irritation for me and required more touch ups to get the same results as the 17-4.

This is the first Titanium razor I have tried though. I tried a bakelite razor long ago and did not like that at all. My preference is for razors near 100 grams in weight. The 17-4 is more comfortable for me. YMMV

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