02-23-2018, 06:48 PM
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  • JABF99
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I am new to using a straight razor, and I have an older straight razor from William (Panther308) that probably won't need to be sharpened for awhile.  I do keep it stropped on a strop I got from Tony Miller.  But at some point I am going to need to sharpen it and would like to learn how to do this myself.  I thought a budget-friendly beginning would be to try the lapping film rather than jump right in and buy some expensive stones.  But does the lapping film work very well?

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 02-23-2018, 07:05 PM
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Just get the stones your going to need them.

I think the best value in stones are the shapton stones. Just get a 12k. It may be all you need for now.

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 02-23-2018, 07:14 PM
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Some guys are big fans of lapping film. Of the current forums I think B&B and some of the shaving reddits have the most info if you do a search

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 02-24-2018, 01:51 AM
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it works but I prefer stones, tried it for a while and then give away all the films (and pastes and sprays and what not).

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 02-24-2018, 05:58 AM
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I used lapping film quite awhile back and yes it does work and is economical but prefer stones, if a blade is in decent condition you can get by with 3 stones but would need a 1K to correct chips and geometry issues, it can be done with a 4K but just easier with a 1K .

My suggestion is start off with a 12k just to keep the edge tuned up.

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 02-24-2018, 08:26 AM
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Okay, thank you for the advice.  I will start with a 12k stone.  The razor is shaving great right now, and I alternate days with a Feather SS shavette that I like.  So, do I just not worry about the 12k stone until I notice a change in sharpness, and then touch it up at that point - or do you periodically use it to keep it from losing sharpness?  Right now it seems to shave as well as the day I received it from Panther308.  By the way, I love the razor & I am mighty grateful for being able to get it at such a reasonable price so I could see if I even liked shaving with a SR.  I am careful to keep it stropped... it is a very nice razor for shaving.  I am getting better with it every time I shave.

I can add a stone at a time this way.  What stones should I consider?   I watched a YouTube video by Lynn Abrams that was very positive about Naniwa Super Stones.  They have a 12k stone that I could afford.

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 02-24-2018, 08:32 AM
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Yes, naniwa.
Only touch up when needed. 
Ask William if he used tape.

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 02-24-2018, 08:42 AM
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If the results in the beginning are not 100% to your liking remember then that it's not the stone, someone with a lot of practice will hone a razor on that same stone to another level, takes time to learn just like shaving. A cheap but good second hand razor honed by someone who knows how could be the solution, you could use that one to practice a lot.

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 02-24-2018, 10:43 AM
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(02-24-2018, 05:58 AM)Panther308 Wrote: I used lapping film quite awhile back and yes it does work and is economical but prefer stones, if a blade is in decent condition you can get by with 3 stones but would need a 1K to correct chips and geometry issues, it can be done with a 4K but just easier with a 1K .

My suggestion is start off with a 12k just to keep the edge tuned up.


I understand that it won't need sharpening for awhile, but when it does, should I use tape on the spine of the razor when I sharpen it?

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 02-24-2018, 10:55 AM
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Always before sharpening.

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 09-01-2018, 03:52 AM
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Film on an acrylic block is a very cheap and economical way to sharpen a straight razor and/or knives.  There is nothing wrong with it at all, its actually quite impressive, and will produce simply stellar edges which are very repeatable.  Everyone has their preference of medium, be it a specific brand of synthetic stone, film, pasted strops, sand paper (yes sand paper) or naturals.  There are so many options out there, you need to decide for yourself which route you want to go.  IMO the cheapest and most easily repeatable would be film on an acrylic block 15um, 9um, 3um, 1um film followed by a natural finisher (don't have to be expensive) to mellow out the synthetic edge crispness. There is no right or wrong way, play around with it all and find YOUR way.

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 09-01-2018, 02:51 PM
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Lapping film are easy, fast, cheap and easy-to-find
But a good set of stones is way smoother.
This is my experience.

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 09-02-2018, 04:09 AM
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(09-01-2018, 02:51 PM)ischiapp Wrote: Lapping film are easy, fast, cheap and easy-to-find
But a good set of stones is way smoother.
This is my experience.

When you say a good set of stones is smoother, which stones are you referring to?  I have used both Shapton GS stones (1,2,4,8,16), flim (9um,3um,1um) as well as finishing on pastes such as Diamond, CrOx, Ferox and CBN.  My experience has been that no matter if I used stones, film or pastes (CBN excluded) the edges are all the same, incredibly sharp but lacking the smoothness of a natural edge. IMO a synthetic edge is a synthetic edge.  I will concede that using CBN on balsa, .5, .25, .125 will produce an edge that is every bit as smooth a natural stone.

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 09-02-2018, 04:54 AM
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(09-02-2018, 04:09 AM)Rugger007 Wrote:
(09-01-2018, 02:51 PM)ischiapp Wrote: But a good set of stones is way smoother.
IMO a synthetic edge is a synthetic edge.
You're right.
A good set of natural stones is way smoother.

I've started with films.
Than I've tried synt stones.
Both great tools, sharp but not keen.

Now I use just naturals.

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 09-02-2018, 03:16 PM
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(09-02-2018, 04:54 AM)ischiapp Wrote:
(09-02-2018, 04:09 AM)Rugger007 Wrote:
(09-01-2018, 02:51 PM)ischiapp Wrote: But a good set of stones is way smoother.
IMO a synthetic edge is a synthetic edge.
You're right.
A good set of natural stones is way smoother.

I've started with films.
Than I've tried synt stones.
Both great tools, sharp but not keen.

Now I use just naturals.
That makes things much clearer, I didn't realize you were talking about natural stones.  I couldn't agree with you more, all I use are naturals aside from my bevel setter which rarely ever sees use these days.  I do enjoy trying new things but I always return to the same two stones.

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 09-03-2018, 04:11 AM
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(09-02-2018, 03:16 PM)Rugger007 Wrote: I do enjoy trying new things but I always return to the same two stones.
+1

I know. Wink

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