03-23-2018, 02:12 PM
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These are some of my favorite brushes. I bought them a few years ago, almost five if I make no mistake. I've used them quite a few times, even though I prefer using synthetics lately. If you're patient, some boars are excellent brushes. Some need 15-20 shaves, others 30+. Based on my experience with them, Semogue take less time. Also, Semogue boars don't have that "bad smell" during the first uses like the Omegas. Boars are great vfm brushes and some will always have a place in my den.

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From left to right: Omega 10049, Semogue 830, Semogue 1305, Semogue Owner's Club

In order of preference: Semogue 830, Omega 10049, Semogue 1305, Semogue Owner's Club


Semogue 830 is probably the most-used brush in my den. The tips are pretty soft, it holds water and gives me excellent lather, rich and long-lasting with any product. The handle is ergonomical. It's a quality brush like most Semogue brushes.

I almost never use the SOC. It's just too big and doesn't make great lather with all my soaps. I feel that it needs more product due to its knot/ loft combo, less water than others etc.... It's a strange brush. For example, I think that the Omega 10049, an inexpensive Pro model, is better, except from that cheap plastic handle.

Omega brushes are widely available in Europe at affordable prices. Their synthetics especially are a well-kept secret in our hobby.
Boars need patience, but it eventually pays off. After 25-30 uses, you have a wonderful brush.

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 03-23-2018, 02:19 PM
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Nick, I like both the Omega 49 and SOC.  However, for me the Thaters are the new standard in boar brushes.  Regarding synthetics, I've also found myself increasingly using them.

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 03-23-2018, 02:29 PM
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I would also rank Omega pro 49 and Semogue 830 as my top boar brushes. I would also put Omega 20102 in that category, although the handle is a bit small.
On the other hand, I have Semogue 620, but it became so splayed, that it's unusable. Now that I think of it, this has partially happened also to the 830. My Omegas don't have that problem.

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 03-23-2018, 06:15 PM
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This post is helpful since I was thinking of pulling the trigger on SOC myself but might explore others as well.

I recently ordered a Mondial brush which I have rolled out for a small shaving tour in my friend circle. I didn't use it myself but liked the stiff knot. Hope it performs well.


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 03-23-2018, 06:30 PM
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My favorites were the Vulfix LE's (Hyde Park, Mayfair etc) made a few years back, the Omega 81052 and the Omega 310XX series. Never caught the Semogue bug

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 03-24-2018, 12:56 AM
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Love boars! Omega Pro and 10066 ans Semogue 830 and 610. I cannibalized the 10066 knot and put it In a vintage barber handle.

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 03-24-2018, 07:32 AM
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(03-23-2018, 02:29 PM)G_man Wrote: I would also rank Omega pro 49 and Semogue 830 as my top boar brushes. I would also put Omega 20102 in that category, although the handle is a bit small.
On the other hand, I have Semogue 620, but it became so splayed, that it's unusable. Now that I think of it, this has partially happened also to the 830. My Omegas don't have that problem.


It's true that a well-used Semogue has that splay problem. None of my Omegas has it.




The only thing in common these two brands have is that they offer boar brushes. There are many differences between them.

I can't say I prefer one to the other, but if I had to choose one, this would be the Semogue.

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 03-24-2018, 12:48 PM
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Don't know why, but boars never grew on me no matter how many I have owned of them, badgers always seem to outperform them in all areas except price.

I has a SOC I used 25-30 times, but it became too splayed for my preferences, hence I'm selling the last of my unused boars soon.

I have owned 100's of badgers and 12-15 boars, I would honestly prefer almost every single badger over even the best boars I have owned.

This is not to degrade your post about boars, just stating my experience and opinion on boars.

I respect what boar brushes can do, and know many shavers love their boar brushes.
They are simply just not for me.

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 03-24-2018, 02:25 PM
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I love boar brushes for bowl lathering. When I face lather I only use shave sticks and for some reason I cannot get a boar brush to work for me with a shave stick. I can only get enough lather for one pass. With my synthetics I have no problem using a shave stick.
But I do love using my boar brushes with a bowl. Here are my only boar brushes I now have. The Thater boar and the B&B 10th Anniversary brush.


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 03-24-2018, 02:57 PM
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(03-24-2018, 02:25 PM)shave/brush Wrote: I love boar brushes for bowl lathering. When I face lather I only use shave sticks and for some reason I cannot get a boar brush to work for me with a shave stick. I can only get enough lather for one pass. With my synthetics I have no problem using a shave stick.
But I do love using my boar brushes with a bowl. Here are my only boar brushes I now have. The Thater boar and the B&B 10th Anniversary brush.


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Ron, that's a great looking boar duo, and they're both excellent brushes.

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 03-24-2018, 03:40 PM
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I have the splay problem with my Semogues too. I don't mind though. I have had two now, and they are my every day users. I use them up and get a new one.

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 03-24-2018, 04:28 PM
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The Semogue 830 was my most used boar and didn't ever have issues with it. Many find it to splay too much or give into the floppy side for knots but I prefer a bit on the less stiff side. Thanks for sharing your pics and thoughts nikos.

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 03-24-2018, 07:25 PM
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Does anyone here use a shave stick with a boar brush? I'm curious because I cannot get any boar brush to work with a shave stick. I wonder if it is just me.

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 03-24-2018, 08:34 PM
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(03-24-2018, 07:25 PM)shave/brush Wrote: Does anyone here use a shave stick with a boar brush? I'm curious because I cannot get any boar brush to work with a shave stick. I wonder if it is just me.

I use a boar with a shave stick pretty often and find I need to apply more stick than I would with a synthetic AND I have to spend just a bit more time working the larger. Solution for me was more soap and more lathering time.

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 03-25-2018, 04:36 AM
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(03-24-2018, 08:34 PM)Lipripper60 Wrote:
(03-24-2018, 07:25 PM)shave/brush Wrote: Does anyone here use a shave stick with a boar brush? I'm curious because I cannot get any boar brush to work with a shave stick. I wonder if it is just me.

I use a boar with a shave stick pretty often and find I need to apply more stick than I would with a synthetic AND I have to spend just a bit more time working the larger.  Solution for me was more soap and more lathering time.

I'd rather not have to apply the stick a second time. I guess boars are just not good when using a shave stick.

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 03-25-2018, 04:59 AM
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(03-25-2018, 04:36 AM)shave/brush Wrote:
(03-24-2018, 08:34 PM)Lipripper60 Wrote:
(03-24-2018, 07:25 PM)shave/brush Wrote: Does anyone here use a shave stick with a boar brush? I'm curious because I cannot get any boar brush to work with a shave stick. I wonder if it is just me.

I use a boar with a shave stick pretty often and find I need to apply more stick than I would with a synthetic AND I have to spend just a bit more time working the larger.  Solution for me was more soap and more lathering time.

I'd rather not have to apply the stick a second time. I guess boars are just not good when using a shave stick.
It depends on the brush I'd say. For example, I can't imagine myself using a stick with a brush like the SOC. A boar with a smaller knot/ loft combo would do the job( Omega 10018).

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 03-25-2018, 05:22 AM
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(03-25-2018, 04:59 AM)nikos.a Wrote:
(03-25-2018, 04:36 AM)shave/brush Wrote:
(03-24-2018, 08:34 PM)Lipripper60 Wrote: I use a boar with a shave stick pretty often and find I need to apply more stick than I would with a synthetic AND I have to spend just a bit more time working the larger.  Solution for me was more soap and more lathering time.

I'd rather not have to apply the stick a second time. I guess boars are just not good when using a shave stick.
It depends on the brush I'd say. For example, I can't imagine myself using a stick with a brush like the SOC. A boar with a smaller knot/ loft combo would do the job( Omega 10018).

The Omega 10018 is a synthetic brush.  I don't see why size would make a difference.

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 03-25-2018, 05:30 AM
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(03-25-2018, 05:22 AM)shave/brush Wrote:
(03-25-2018, 04:59 AM)nikos.a Wrote:
(03-25-2018, 04:36 AM)shave/brush Wrote: I'd rather not have to apply the stick a second time. I guess boars are just not good when using a shave stick.
It depends on the brush I'd say. For example, I can't imagine myself using a stick with a brush like the SOC. A boar with a smaller knot/ loft combo would do the job( Omega 10018).

The Omega 10018 is a synthetic brush.  I don't see why size would make a difference.
No.

The synthetic is called S-10018, not 10018, which is the boar edition.

As I see it, a big brush like the SOC is not recommended to rub a stick, but to each his own.[Image: d447ced4b7cffffd44dc83a077a4f246.jpg]

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 03-25-2018, 06:53 AM
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The way I do it is, I wet my face and rub a lot of soap on my face. Then I take a fairly wet brush and start to work the lather. Works great with a synthetic but not so good with a boar.

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 03-25-2018, 10:18 AM
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(03-24-2018, 04:28 PM)zaclikestoshave Wrote: The Semogue 830 was my most used boar and didn't ever have issues with it. Many find it to splay too much or give into the floppy side for knots but I prefer a bit on the less stiff side. Thanks for sharing your pics and thoughts nikos.


I've read a couple of reviews where people say the 830 splays after it's fully broken in. I have a the r/wetshaving (sub Reddit) 2017 LE Semogue which is basically the same knot as 830 and 1305 but set 5mms lower. I don't have any splay problem with it. It's absolutely phenomenal. I think these know are one of the best boar knots out there, it's almost as soft as my fancy badgers and creates a more hydrated lather
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