03-31-2018, 12:20 PM
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(03-31-2018, 10:29 AM)vinnychampionmd Wrote:
(03-31-2018, 09:18 AM)bijou Wrote: To me the Wiborg is an excellent 2 band that has the feel of a 3 band silvertip. I have a few Wiborgs, a few years ago I contacted Florian to order a few brushes, I asked him if he could add more density/backbone he told me he dosen't want to alter his knot. In my opinion the El Druida knot comes close to the Wiborg, what I mean is that it could be its little brother. As far as a great brush i'm a big fan of Paladin but you have to read up on the knot code and understand lot and free loft and what knot is being offered. 

Paladin offers brushes for sale but the knots may not be what you want, which means you will have to wait for the next new knot and handle offering. Or post on the WTB section the type of Pal brush your looking for.


If you are still in regular communication with Mr. Arnold could you please ask him to respond to my emails. I would love to get a few brushes directly from him as I can no longer afford the second hand ones. Much appreciated.


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Sorry, I've not been able to get in touch with him for quite awhile

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 03-31-2018, 01:36 PM
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Gentlemen.. I say stop chasing a mirage and get one of the available brushes in the market. Yes they are fantastic brushes but so are so many brushes out there

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 03-31-2018, 03:30 PM
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Wiborg is not a bad option to persue, and is worth a slight premium over retail, but not much. Of course this is my take on it. Others might disagree. I personally wouldn't see why anyone would pay those prices. I've experienced just about every brush out there, and the only brushes I've personally ever come across that I feel are worth the premium they go over retail for is Rooney Heritage and Rooney Finest. Those are chase worthy. They are unique far beyond most others. Vintage Plisson HMW 3-band and 2-band along with Shavemac 2-band D01 pre-2005 deserves a mention too as they are unique and nice, and cheaper to boot, but if I was forced to boil it down to one 2-band and one 3-band option, there's no question in my mind. Old school Rooney Finest and Heritage with a special nod to 2-band Heritage. They are fun, nice to own, and realistically I can say don't chase the mirage as snowman says, but at the same time, I realistically realize I'm a madman in this hobby and if you just can't get that itch out of your mind and you can afford it, itch it. I can say this from personal experience. lol You'll always be wondering, but don't stress it if you can't. My best advice for scratching that itch for something special is to wait for one of the forum's various Limited Editions to release and get one of those. I've never had one that I haven't been disappointed in, and are a cut above the rest. I find Semogue to have particular value price-to-performance value for what they offer.

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 03-31-2018, 04:31 PM
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I had several Wiborg brushes. I thought his best knots were the White Badger labeled brushes in ebony handles. Those were excellent knots. So are Elite Manchurian knots and shavemac 2 Band Silvertip and some Paladin batches.

They were sold for $180 to $240 and worth that money. Current prices are just a reflection of non availability.

As others said Rooney Finest and Heritage - and I would add Simpson 2 Band of 2011-13 - are the only brushes worth top dollars- for me.

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 03-31-2018, 07:38 PM
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(03-31-2018, 04:31 PM)German Wrote: I had several Wiborg brushes. I thought his best knots were the White Badger labeled brushes in ebony handles. Those were excellent knots. So are Elite Manchurian knots and shavemac 2 Band Silvertip and some Paladin batches.

They were sold for $180 to $240 and worth that money. Current prices are just a reflection of non availability.

As others said Rooney Finest and Heritage - and I would add Simpson  2 Band of 2011-13 - are the only brushes worth top dollars- for me.

Simpson 2-Band would be another good option. I know that people like brushes with backbone quite a bit, and mentioning 2-band I can't help but recall a Chubby 2 I picked up from Jim at Vintage Blades in Sept of 2009 when he first got stock of his Simpson brushes. Excellent hair. I'd have kept that brush if it weren't so pointy.

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 03-31-2018, 08:32 PM
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Kooshman, nothing like them Rooney Heritage.. I have a couple and THOSE are truly special and yea fun to use.. I am of the camp that values razors more than brushes as imho they have more impact on the quality of Shave compared to brushes. Where a brush to me adds to the "luxury" more than the quality and so I don't typically chase brushes. HOWEVER I've chased Rooney Heritage and don't regret it.. most valuable brushes in my den

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 03-31-2018, 09:26 PM
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I can understand that line of thought snowman. While I love my brushes, I've been recently getting the itch to see if a higher razor can top my Feather AS-D2 and ATT M1. There's a great deal of luxury to be had in the brushes, and I had SBAD before I even had a brush. I always loved the concept of the shaving brush and whipping up a good lather with it. AD's don't die, they just shift focus.

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 04-01-2018, 01:28 PM
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(03-31-2018, 09:26 PM)kooshman7 Wrote: I can understand that line of thought snowman. While I love my brushes, I've been recently getting the itch to see if a higher razor can top my Feather AS-D2 and ATT M1. There's a great deal of luxury to be had in the brushes, and I had SBAD before I even had a brush. I always loved the concept of the shaving brush and whipping up a good lather with it. AD's don't die, they just shift focus.


Haha very true unfortunately.. just go from one rabbit hole to another LOL.
I have been using the same two razors for the last 3 years so I can't make recommendations.. I would highly advise to try a Coba Classic.

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 04-05-2018, 07:58 AM
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(03-30-2018, 04:24 PM)merkur man Wrote: Not a chance.  Wiborg are excellent brushes with fabulous knots but I wouldn't trade one of my Rooneys for 10 Wiborgs.  I think they are so desirable at the moment because they are almost impossible to secure not necessarily because they are in anyway better than any other currently made brush.  It is amazing that everyone on the BST seems to want to get their hands on one these day though isn't it?

Have you ever purchased a Wiborg and tried it?

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 04-05-2018, 09:13 AM
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I have to wiborg with ebony handles and white badger hair that I wouldn’t trade for anything.

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 04-05-2018, 09:15 AM
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They are very nice brushes, but no better than the ones that are readily available. 
The money that they are commanding, nowadays, is a bit extreme, but what do I know?  Shy

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 04-05-2018, 09:42 AM
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(04-05-2018, 09:15 AM)celestino Wrote: They are very nice brushes, but no better than the ones that are readily available. 
The money that they are commanding, nowadays, is a bit extreme, but what do I know?  Shy


+1 , owned several wiborg’s and sold all :-)


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 04-05-2018, 09:42 AM
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(03-31-2018, 04:31 PM)German Wrote: I had several Wiborg brushes. I thought his best knots were the White Badger labeled brushes in ebony handles. Those were excellent knots. So are Elite Manchurian knots and shavemac 2 Band Silvertip and some Paladin batches.

They were sold for $180 to $240 and worth that money. Current prices are just a reflection of non availability.

As others said Rooney Finest and Heritage - and I would add Simpson  2 Band of 2011-13 - are the only brushes worth top dollars- for me.

I have 4 Wiborg's and 7 Shavemac's.  One of the reasons why the price is so high is not necessarily supply and demand as much as the terrible conversation rate between the Dollar and the Euro.  All 11 of these brushes are 2 band silvertip fan shape.  Most of them are 26mm and 28mm.  I follow the Euro and have been using a bench mark of 168€ which converted a few years ago to $179.  Today the conversation is approximately $206 and has been as high as $211.  That is $27 to $32 more for the same brush today  The next time I order from Wiborg I may purchase 5 of them which at todays conversation would add $135 to $160 to my price.  I will wait.

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 04-05-2018, 09:46 AM
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Check out the Thater's Bullgoose has in inventory.  Great brush and a reasonable price.

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 04-05-2018, 10:14 AM
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(04-05-2018, 09:42 AM)Tidepool Wrote:
(03-31-2018, 04:31 PM)German Wrote: I had several Wiborg brushes. I thought his best knots were the White Badger labeled brushes in ebony handles. Those were excellent knots. So are Elite Manchurian knots and shavemac 2 Band Silvertip and some Paladin batches.

They were sold for $180 to $240 and worth that money. Current prices are just a reflection of non availability.

As others said Rooney Finest and Heritage - and I would add Simpson  2 Band of 2011-13 - are the only brushes worth top dollars- for me.

I have 4 Wiborg's and 7 Shavemac's.  One of the reasons why the price is so high is not necessarily supply and demand as much as the terrible conversation rate between the Dollar and the Euro.  All 11 of these brushes are 2 band silvertip fan shape.  Most of them are 26mm and 28mm.  I follow the Euro and have been using a bench mark of 168€ which converted a few years ago to $179.  Today the conversation is approximately $206 and has been as high as $211.  That is $27 to $32 more for the same brush today  The next time I order from Wiborg I may purchase 5 of them which at todays conversation would add $135 to $160 to my price.  I will wait.


That may add a small bit to the price but we are not talking $30-40 here. We are talking unable to get one for less than $500. Jut from personal experience, I have only be able to purchase at significantly marked up second hand prices. I would love to purchase directly but have never been able to get in touch with Mr. Arnold despite numerous emails.


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 04-05-2018, 10:33 AM
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(04-05-2018, 09:46 AM)Tidepool Wrote: Check out the Thater's Bullgoose has in inventory.  Great brush and a reasonable price.

Now that's solid advice.

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 04-08-2018, 01:22 AM
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Unless quality of the badger hair and knot has risen proportionally since the prices on Wiborgs started to clime to the top, Wiborgs are in no way any better than the other top brush makers out there.

Just my 2 cents.

YMMV

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 04-19-2018, 09:27 AM
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I haven't tried all the outstanding other brushes mentioned here.
I own two Wiborg white badger brushes.
I can't speak for his other brushes, only for white badger.
They are easily my very favorite brushes, which I prefer to my Shavemac 2 band or Simpsons super or [Image: 8dbd7ce87668d624a46f618fdf39690e.jpg]manchurian brushes.

Would I pay those ridiculous prices of say 400.-?
No.
But I would not want to sell them at these ridiculous prices, neither.



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 04-19-2018, 09:49 AM
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(04-19-2018, 09:27 AM)apogee. Wrote: I haven't tried all the outstanding other brushes mentioned here.
I own two Wiborg white badger brushes.
I can't speak for his other brushes, only for white badger.
They are easily my very favorite brushes, which I prefer to my Shavemac 2 band or Simpsons super or [Image: 8dbd7ce87668d624a46f618fdf39690e.jpg]manchurian brushes.

Would I pay those ridiculous prices of say 400.-?
No.
But I would not want to sell them at these ridiculous prices, neither.



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beautiful picture and brush.  you are a lucky man

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 04-19-2018, 10:53 AM
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Thanks for your kind comment, but it isn't a brush that makes a man happy

Here the other white badger:

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