06-04-2018, 09:01 AM
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(06-02-2018, 07:24 AM)ShadowsDad Wrote:
(06-02-2018, 03:49 AM)primotenore Wrote: Chasing the Baby is a sure recipe for disaster. My credo: Focus on removing the lather, not the hair; ride the cap (i.e. maintain the angle); make sure the lather is well-hydrated. The Baby will find you.  Biggrin

Precisely.

A BBS is more a natural product of correct technique and gear. Once you have those in order you won't be able to stop from having a BBS.
And that's why daily shaving is so enjoyable. You get to start fresh every morning.  Biggrin

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 06-04-2018, 03:47 PM
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  • pbrmhl
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I insist on billiard ball smoothness for no logical reason, except that it means I’ve aligned my skills with my tools. I seem to have a rugged, blade-friendly face, which doesn’t attract cuts, irritation, weepers or other negatives, which helps a great deal. But I don’t use razors that I can’t get to deliver a BBS. Blades, soap, cream, brushes and other gear don’t seem to matter as much, but only some of my razors get me the close shave I expect. I do two passes, both a combo of ATG and XTG, and tons of buffing. I suspect I cover every square mm of my face at least 15-20 times. (Too much Colorado sun as a lifeguard in the ‘70s created a tough hide.)

Demanding BBS shaves is but one of my many odd quirks.

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 06-04-2018, 04:08 PM
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I have given up seeking a BBS shave. My skin is just too sensitive. And maybe my technique is at fault too. However, I find that the only way to distinguish between a BBS shave and a 2 pass WTG and XTG shave is if you touch the skin. So for me, BBS is not worth the irritation on my skin.

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 06-05-2018, 11:56 AM
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  • Mouser
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I'm very lucky and grateful. With the tools I use I get BBS every shave. Every. Three passes, little if any touchups so yeah, for me no problem,  it's worth it.

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 06-05-2018, 12:29 PM
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(06-05-2018, 11:56 AM)Mouser Wrote: I'm very lucky and grateful. With the tools I use I get BBS every shave. Every. Three passes, little if any touchups so yeah, for me no problem,  it's worth it.

Same for me.

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 06-05-2018, 03:31 PM
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  • JABF99
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I do the 2-passes and then touch up a couple of areas.  This isn't BBS, but gives me a comfortable shave that is a DFS.

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 06-05-2018, 05:13 PM
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(06-03-2018, 09:29 PM)Badgerstate Wrote: I would say that chasing BBS can be a waste of time, considering that its gone usually within 8 hours anyways and no one is going to notice a difference from DFS to BBS.  I'll admit that IM guility of chasing perfection too much and often giving myself weepers.  I would easily just do 2 XTG passes, get a nice DFS and call it a day but Im always temped to go for an ATG pass to get that last little bit of closeness.
I figure if Im going to invest this much time and money in something like shaving, I want perfection.

You raise what is, for me, an interesting point. I can get a “temporary” BBS (i.e., 6 to 8 hours) with some razors (e.g., vintage Gillette Old Styles and NEWs). I don’t use those much. I want both closeness and longevity, and there are only a relative few that deliver. In the last six months, I’ve discovered several less blade-forward DEs that combine them both, namely the Paradigm 17-4, Karve with an F plate, and Asylum Evolution T model. This space intrigues me, as my general experience is that close, long-lasting shaves are a direct function of blade-forwardness (that is, “aggressiveness”). Maybe the industry is refining the trade-off...

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 06-06-2018, 03:35 PM
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Short answer: No

Long answer: Not worth it for ME, but as with anything, YMMV.  I had been cartridge shaving for 26 years before I was finally introduced to DEs and proper wet shaving a little over 3 years ago.  For the first time in my life, I've found it enjoyable!  No irritation, no ingrown hairs, no nothing, just clean smooth skin.  I'm usually a twice a week head and face shaver with difficult hair and sensitive skin, so with that in mind, I focus on the entire shaving experience.  Poor a drink, or pack a bowl with the rest of us in Washington ;-), turn on some music, proper prep, the right razor/handle combo, and take my time.  Start to finish, I'm in the hour and a half range, which includes thorough cleanup of whatever gear I'm using.  My head is covered with extremely thick coarse hair that grows if I think too hard AND I'm cursed with about a  dozen cowlicks, so shaving WTG is a relative term.  WTG + XTG + a little touch up = DFS+ about 95% of the time.  Same thing with my face, except the hair isn't quite as densely packed.  Even coarser hair, more cowlicks, more curves to shave around, but still no cuts, nicks, or weepers.  Adding the extra ATG step would increase the likelihood of tearing up my skin exponentially and after a few hours, it's the same as the 2 pass.

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 06-21-2018, 10:02 PM
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I had the same dilemma, I always want BBS even though I got irritation, so I have been buying loads of razors, blades soaps etc chasing the irritation free BBS. I have now settled on UK Wilkies in an Aluminium handled Tech!! Wierdly I don't find them the sharpest blade, but I find them really smooth, so I have to do short strokes, often buffing, 3 passes but I get BBS with no irritation. I don't know if its the coatings on modern blades or what it is, but i'm rather happy for now! I'm in the UK too so kinda helps sourcing them lol Smile

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