06-24-2019, 07:39 AM
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sure was worth it this morning.

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 06-24-2019, 03:49 PM
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  • Mel S Meles
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(06-24-2019, 06:28 AM)Mouser Wrote: I know this is an old thread but I just have a little something else to add. We wet our beards before we shave to soften our whiskers.  They soak up the water and soften up because they're less dense. And they swell. Often what doesn't feel like a BBS when wet absolutely does so when dry. Point is don't judge your results until your face is dry. The whiskers are still swollen. When they're fully dry they'll shrink.

Oh, my.  Intentionally or not, you just revived the George Costanza "shrinkage" episode of Seinfeld.  Now I have to shampoo my memory.

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 06-25-2019, 03:25 PM
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I like this thread! Some folks mention chasing a BBS result, and it at times leading to irritation. I think all of us have been guilty of that a time or two.

I recently have come across two razors that feel like they were made for my face...the Wilkinson Sticky and the Star Model 100. They shave wonderfully for my face, and have led to BBS results every shave over the last few weeks with zero irritation. I have only had to do minimal touch ups. I personally think that the STAR Model 100 is one of the best kept secrets in wet shaving!

It also doesn’t hurt that I have been using Personna 74s and British made Wilkinson blades, along with some really great soaps!

So is the pinnacle result of the shaving process worth it...yes...to me it is since I can achieve it without any irritation or ingrown hairs! If I commonly had razor burn and/or ingrown hairs, then I would have to learn to be content with a DFS result.

Vr

Matt

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 06-27-2019, 02:48 AM
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  • Mouser
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(06-24-2019, 03:49 PM)Mel S Meles Wrote:
(06-24-2019, 06:28 AM)Mouser Wrote: I know this is an old thread but I just have a little something else to add. We wet our beards before we shave to soften our whiskers.  They soak up the water and soften up because they're less dense. And they swell. Often what doesn't feel like a BBS when wet absolutely does so when dry. Point is don't judge your results until your face is dry. The whiskers are still swollen. When they're fully dry they'll shrink.

Oh, my.  Intentionally or not, you just revived the George Costanza "shrinkage" episode of Seinfeld.  Now I have to shampoo my memory.

Oh Gawd Mel!, you're right.  How did I miss that? Unlike my wife who I've tried to explain it to many times,  I know all about shrinkage. Although whiskers shrink when they're dry, just the opposite...let's drop this.

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 08-21-2019, 02:41 PM
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  • Irv
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(06-02-2018, 04:31 AM)Johnny Wrote: I am happy with whatever a two pass shave will give me.  99% of the time that is a DFS.

totally agree on that!

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 08-21-2019, 03:27 PM
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(06-02-2018, 04:31 AM)Johnny Wrote: I am happy with whatever a two pass shave will give me.  99% of the time that is a DFS.

totally agree on that!

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 09-06-2019, 07:26 PM
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When I was younger , I never even HEARD of a 3 pass shave. Why in the world would I do that?
One and done was it. Period.
Only time I tried to do a touch up or 2, was when I knew the night would be an "active" one!
Only recently did I discover that there were actually NAMED types of shaves. Had to laugh at the "persnickety-ness" of such a nomenclature for such a mundane task.
So, no, since I don't subscribe to the "splitting of hairs" as it were!!

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 09-06-2019, 07:43 PM
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Just to be clear, not everyone can get a DFS from a 2-pass shave. That’s not persnickety - that’s a fact.

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 09-07-2019, 01:14 AM
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(09-06-2019, 07:43 PM)mike_the_kraken Wrote: Just to be clear, not everyone can get a DFS from a 2-pass shave. That’s not persnickety - that’s a fact.

I can't, not without irritation, which is the other factor to consider. If I go hard enough with an aggressive razor I can certainly get a DFS in two passes but then my face will be red from irritation. So how many passes are needed for a sufficiently close and comfortable shave, that's the question.

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 09-07-2019, 11:35 AM
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I aimed for BBS when I started, but once I achieved it I felt I had mastered DE technique and now settle for DFS or CCS most days. I can still get BBS, if I need to, by using my favorite products and extra  touchup. 2-pass? Forget it. Been shaving 55 years and my only 2-pass shaves were with carts, requiring the plucking out of ingrown hairs for several days afterwards. I get no ingrowns with DE.

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 09-09-2019, 05:11 AM
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I had a stroke 3 1/2 years ago and I lost the use of my right arm.  I thought "whatamIgonnado?" without a 3-pass shave, and you know what?  I get a DFS with a 1-passer.  'Nuff for me!

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 12-12-2019, 06:25 PM
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(06-02-2018, 12:55 AM)kyproset Wrote: Hello all dear friends,

I'm one who has so far been chaising  BBS in every single shave. I don't really get a lot of cuts as I have some experience with DE's & SE's but a bit of irritation is present after every BBS attempt. Last shave I decided to leave it at DFS. One pass and a few corrections XTG. That was all. Obviously it took less time to shave but this is not the issue here. Visually the resulting shave looked as good as BBS, but I could feel some stubble under the jaw line which didn't bother me at all. The shave was completely irritation free, to the point that aftershave balm was not really needed. Two days after the shave, I see that the growth is not that much longer had I achieved  BBS.
Now I'm beginning to think that BBS is not needed as it doesn't look any better than DFS and the skin remains irritation free. YMMV.

BBS matters if you think it does. I converted to wet shaving when my fiance complained that my stubble created a rash to her face. It became imperative then that I learned to shave correctly.

Just for the record, I stopped categorizing my shave after several months of practice. Whatever you call "feeling no stubble" was my goal. I also threw away that "3 pass rule" once it became obvious I would never achieve my desired results by adhering strictly to the principles I picked up in shaving forums. It took me nearly 2 years before my technique developed to the point I was satisfied with my shave.

The turning point for me was experiencing the worst case of razor burn ever. After several days of not using my razor I returned to shaving with great trepidation. That was exactly what I needed. I understood the pain I experienced from the razor burn was the result of shaving too aggressively. I stopped scraping my face and began allowing the blade to glide gently across the surface of my face. In short, I stopped shaving my face and started shaving the stubble OFF my face. I learned that proper prep and my sufficiently weighted razor allowed me to simply guide the razor while allowing the blade to do what it's designed to do.

No force or pressure required.

Once I mastered this I was able to use as many passes required to remove all facial stubble without irritating my face. 

I guess the key thing I learned...in answer to your question...is it's not necessary to "chase" a close shave. If you're attentive and you practice good technique you learn to ALLOW your razor to produce the desired shave.

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