09-05-2012, 08:26 PM
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  • Teiste
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I want to be fair and say that I have used this brush only once and tested it several times with UK triple milled soaps (blessed be the old Geo F Trumper with tallow soaps!) and as well as with shaving creams.

If yesterday I started the thread about the Rooney Heritage 2 XL super badger two band brush writing about how sometimes we love brushes right away and sometimes how this love grows on us,I also have to say,that sometimes brushes leave us indifferent.Im afraid that what I experienced today,but again,I have only tried this brush once.

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In the past I had a Simpson Chubby 2 best badger two band Carter Era,which was a huge brush : well,this is the opposite case,being on the small size of brushes with the specs :
  • 22,5 mm knot
  • 48 mm loft
  • 89 mm total height.

I do like small brushes,but this one doesnt have anything appealing to me,like the Simpson Classic 1 (GORGEOUS handle) or the Rooney 1/1 silvertip (the ultimame face latherer brush for my liking).

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Of course,and no doubt about it,this is a well made and finish brush (at this stage,we all know how good are Simpson handles) and the hair is the super badger,which to me,is very similar to some of the finest silvertip badger hair out there,like the shavemac D01 silvertip.

And as a good Simpson brush ,this brush is extra filled with badger hair,as you can see in this pic :

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So,why my indiference about it today? Several things :

1.Its a small brush (I knew it) but not as well "balanced " as the Classic 1 ( and I suspect Classic 2 too).The handle is quiet thick,thicker than I was expecting and kind of ackward to hold.

2.Extra well packed of hair doesnt mean better on my book,Im sorry.I have a Classic 1 which,maybe has 10 to 15% less of hair : well,thats makes the difference since the Classic 1 is not a lather hog and this is a lather hog.The main purpose of a shaving brush is to create lather with soap/cream and release the lather.Yes,it also does exfoliates the skin and raises the beard hair,but to create and release lather.If the brush doesnt releases all its lather,the best lather most of the time,its failing to the purposed of its creation.

3.The super badger hair is quiet nice,soft tips,but due to its short backbone and extra hair,its kind of scritchy,actually kind of scratchy.Not for me.If I get silvertip 3 band hair,I want soft tips or with a tiny,little bit of scritch.

4.Its price.Too expensive for what I perceive it is.I would go for a Simpson Duke 3 hands down/close eyes any day of the week,or even the Classic 1 before getting this brush.I actually doubt that there is a better Simpson offering than the Duke 3,to be honest.The Duke 3 in best badger is a SUPERB brush (I have owned 3) and cost less than 120 dollars.This one is around 170 dollars.

The Rooney 1/1 silvertip is a better face lathering brush than this,according to my likes and tastes and cost around 80 dollars (even less,depending where you get it).

I need to try out/test/use this brush more but so far not impressed by it.A pity,since the Chubby is such a legendary brush...

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 09-05-2012, 09:28 PM
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Nice review Teiste. I have one of these in best and one in 2 band super. The one is best I really like. The brush in 2 band though, it's in another league. My best hair brush has very nice hair, but the tips on the 2 band are even softer and due to the thicker hair in then2 band, it has better flow too.

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 09-06-2012, 08:17 AM
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Thanks for the information, Teiste.

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 09-06-2012, 08:44 AM
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Mine is 23/47mm and I got it early in my wet shaving experience. I found it scritchy and a lather hog. I moved it aside for a year and just recently tried it again... And liked it much better ... One reason probably because my technique got better... Mine is a good face lathering brush and the tips actually softened up a bit ... Probably softer than my GYLE...

I am still tempted by the Chubby 1 in Two Band...

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 09-06-2012, 09:51 AM
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I haven't tried one of these modern Chubbies, but my Somerset Chubby 1 in 3-band super badger certainly is not a lather hog, nor is it scritchy or scratchy. Its lathering and flowthrough are more like best, and it has soft tips.

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 09-06-2012, 10:15 AM
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I just received my Chubby 3 in Super. It is a gigantic brush that has extremely soft tips and an extremely dense knot, which gives it excellent backbone. The density also makes it the biggest soap hog I have ever encountered. I am trying to figure out the best way to load it - it's definitely a challenge but when I figure it out, I think it will be well worth it. I hope the same is true for your #1.

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 09-06-2012, 06:37 PM
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  • Johnny
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Another nice review Teiste.

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 09-10-2012, 08:24 AM
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  • Teiste
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Used again today,and Im still not impressed at all with this brush.

1.Handle kind of awkward to hold : the Classic 1 or the Rooney 1/1 or 1/2 have better handles,and are more ergonomic than this one.

2.Its a wall of badger and almost no flow.The Classic 1,with less hair and a shorter loft,have better flow...

3.Its a lather hog : yes,if you use shaving soaps,be ready to load the brush like there is no tomorrow.I do apply this rule to every triple milled soap I use,but this one,eats soap like crazy.

4.Due to its short loft,tips aren't as soft as they should be.Actually,the Classic 1 has the same "soft" tips and its cheaper.

Well,I guess that not every brush is made for me and Im sure that many people adore this particular brush.

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 09-10-2012, 11:18 AM
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  • hon
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The Classic 1 is 10 to 15% lesser hair than the Ch1 Super.
How about the density of Ch1 Super comparing to Duke 3 Best?
Is the Duke 3 feel bigger or similar to the Ch1 on face?
I got a Duke 3 but keep thinking of trying the Ch1. I'm afraid their knots/performances might be too similar. I don't want spend the money on the Ch1 but end up finding the Duke 3 is a 'better' brush. Undecided
Thanks.

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 09-10-2012, 03:47 PM
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  • Teiste
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(09-10-2012, 11:18 AM)hon Wrote: The Classic 1 is 10 to 15% lesser hair than the Ch1 Super.
How about the density of Ch1 Super comparing to Duke 3 Best?
Is the Duke 3 feel bigger or similar to the Ch1 on face?
I got a Duke 3 but keep thinking of trying the Ch1. I'm afraid their knots/performances might be too similar. I don't want spend the money on the Ch1 but end up finding the Duke 3 is a 'better' brush. Undecided
Thanks.

Thats a good one there.I should take some pics and make a thread comparing both brushes.
For me,the Duke 3 is a better brush.Less dense,yes,but better flow and also not a lather hog at all.Also the Duke 3 handle is easy to hold,or to me,is more comfortable.

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 11-28-2012, 05:41 AM
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My Chubby I Super, which I bought from Optometrist, just arrived yesterday. This brush is simply gorgeous! Super badger is truly the highest quality level and the most luxurious hair you can imagine. It is comparable to Vulfix Silvertip grade. Hardly any dark tips, 99% creamy white tips. No scritch when dry, even softer when wet. Just imagine a soft cloud in heaven - that's what they put into this brush's handle.Wink

I'm just wondering why so many people say that a "Chubby 1,5" would be so much better, bla bla. This brush is HUGE. I've seen comparison-pictures of CH1 and CH2 and the CH1 always looked so tiny. But such pictures are sometimes lying.

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 11-28-2012, 05:45 AM
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(11-28-2012, 05:41 AM)infabo Wrote: I'm just wondering why so many people say that a "Chubby 1,5" would be so much better, bla bla. This brush is HUGE. I've seen comparison-pictures of CH1 and CH2 and the CH1 always looked so tiny. But such pictures are sometimes lying.

I've owned - or have owned - all the Chubby sizes from Simpson. The knot and loft are fine for me...I just didn't care for the very small handle. The Chubby 2 is quite a bit better for me, but for now, I'm liking my Chubby 3 Super quite a lot - at least when it comes up in my rotation.

The knot on my Chubby 1 was around 23 to 23.5...not sure if I would consider that huge. Maybe you're speaking of the bloom?

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 11-28-2012, 06:38 AM
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I like the smaller Simpsons and I like Simpsons best hair. So 7 of my 8 Simpsons are in best. (Duke 1, Case, Wee Scot, 55, Colonel, Berkeley and Chubby 1) I like them all, some more, some less, but if one had to go, it would certainly be the Chubby 1.

Main critic is the awkward handle of the Chubby 1, too short and thick. I have no problems with other small Simpson handles, not even with the Wee Scot. But this one isn't ergonomic at all.

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 11-28-2012, 07:27 AM
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(11-28-2012, 05:45 AM)Samjax Wrote: Maybe you're speaking of the bloom?

I am. But in terms of knot diameter, mine has ~23,5mm too, but for face-lathering and the high-density of hair, I consider that as huge. Honestly, I would not go bigger.

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 11-28-2012, 11:45 AM
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Teiste, thank you for the review of this brush. It is the only one I can remember in which you don't have just wonderful things to say about it.

As the new owner of the actual brush you reviewed, I cannot agree more. It is a Simpson alright, a gorgeous lathe turned handle with good weight and excellent finish and nice Super badger hair. The rest, not so good.

The knot is one of the ugly ones, very irregular shaped when dry, the rod stock is darker and almost tannish in color compared to all my other Simpsons. The knot, very short lofted which, like you perceived, provides more scritch than I normally prefer.

In the end I am still happy to own this brush, it is a Simpson's chubby in super three band and completes my line up of Chubbies. It's job is a travel companion anyway, so the negatives I find in this brush don't "arise" often, as it is not part of my regular rotation. Thanks again for a great and honest review Teiste!

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 11-28-2012, 03:54 PM
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(11-28-2012, 05:45 AM)Samjax Wrote:
(11-28-2012, 05:41 AM)infabo Wrote: I'm just wondering why so many people say that a "Chubby 1,5" would be so much better, bla bla. This brush is HUGE. I've seen comparison-pictures of CH1 and CH2 and the CH1 always looked so tiny. But such pictures are sometimes lying.

I've owned - or have owned - all the Chubby sizes from Simpson. The knot and loft are fine for me...I just didn't care for the very small handle. The Chubby 2 is quite a bit better for me, but for now, I'm liking my Chubby 3 Super quite a lot - at least when it comes up in my rotation.

The knot on my Chubby 1 was around 23 to 23.5...not sure if I would consider that huge. Maybe you're speaking of the bloom?

What he said. That and a 23mm knot just doesn't scream "Chubby!!!" to me. A 26mm knot would. Which is why I've got a custom Chubby 1.5 on its way to me. Biggrin

Oh yeah! I can see the wall of badger now....

(11-28-2012, 11:45 AM)cessnabird Wrote: Teiste, thank you for the review of this brush. It is the only one I can remember in which you don't have just wonderful things to say about it.

He doesn't like the Thater 2 band for some reason. And the M&F 2 blonde badger. I agree about the M&F blonde.

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 11-28-2012, 05:38 PM
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You must share pictures and thoughts of that custom chubby when it comes in Lee.Smile

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 11-28-2012, 06:38 PM
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(11-28-2012, 05:38 PM)cessnabird Wrote: You must share pictures and thoughts of that custom chubby when it comes in Lee.Smile

You know me. I'm all about sharing the porn! *joke*

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 11-28-2012, 11:50 PM
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(11-28-2012, 11:45 AM)cessnabird Wrote: The knot is one of the ugly ones, very irregular shaped when dry, the rod stock is darker and almost tannish in color compared to all my other Simpsons. The knot, very short lofted which, like you perceived, provides more scritch than I normally prefer.

Sounds like you've lost in the "Simpson roulette". Mine is perfectly shaped, the handle's color is like all my other Simpsons and 48mm loft is all I want - and certainly all I need. No scritch, not scratch at all - just heavenly soft. I could not be any better.
But if you like "wall of badger" more - then you're right, this brush is too small.

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 11-29-2012, 12:03 AM
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(11-28-2012, 11:50 PM)infabo Wrote:
(11-28-2012, 11:45 AM)cessnabird Wrote: The knot is one of the ugly ones, very irregular shaped when dry, the rod stock is darker and almost tannish in color compared to all my other Simpsons. The knot, very short lofted which, like you perceived, provides more scritch than I normally prefer.

Sounds like you've lost in the "Simpson roulette". Mine is perfectly shaped, the handle's color is like all my other Simpsons and 48mm loft is all I want - and certainly all I need. No scritch, not scratch at all - just heavenly soft. I could not be any better.
But if you like "wall of badger" more - then you're right, this brush is too small.

I do prefer large brushes, which is why I picked this one up for travel or the occasional use.

Wall of badger you say? Yes sir, the Chubby 3 in three band super is my favorite brush.

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