03-14-2012, 08:41 AM
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  • bjorney
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Hi,

I've been wetshaving for about 1.5 years now and I've found a lot of equipment I like.

The part I've spent the least time and money on is the brush. I have a super-cheap horse-hair brush and I put a TGN synthetic badger knot in an old handle when SWMBO complained about the aroma from the "horsey". They work fine but I wanted to try Badger and picked up a cheap VDH "Pure Badger" brush at Target and bought a vintage Badger/Boar brush on ebay.

I see the same phenomenon with both of them...

The first-pass lather is great, better than my other brushes... but then it's gone for pass 2! I use the same amount of cream or soap and I do seem to get more first-pass lather.

Is it just that the Badgers "release" lather easier and I'm "releasing" it all on the first pass, or does it go deeper into the brush with Badger?

I face-lather, if that's significant...

Any tips on how to face-lather with a badger and make the lather last for 2-3 passes?

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 03-14-2012, 08:52 AM
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You might need to use more product. How long are you loading the brush? If loading on a puck of soap for 10-20 seconds, try loading for 30-40 seconds. Another problem might be the lather is too dry, if that is the case it will just stick to the brush. Try using a bit more water.

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 03-14-2012, 09:00 AM
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(03-14-2012, 08:52 AM)reyrascon Wrote: You might need to use more product. How long are you loading the brush? If loading on a puck of soap for 10-20 seconds, try loading for 30-40 seconds. Another problem might be the lather is too dry, if that is the case it will just stick to the brush. Try using a bit more water.

Thanks. The lather is definitely not dry. It doesn't stick to the brush, it's like the brush is just empty. Of course I would expect a badger brush to absorb more than my synthetic. I'll try more product tomorrow.

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 03-14-2012, 09:14 AM
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Yeah, I'd say load for a lot longer than you're used to. I think the horsehair can pick up and load soap easier than a badger so you'll need to spend more time on the puck to get the same amount of soap. Also, badgers hold more water so you may need even more soap to compensate or gently shake off a little more water from the brush before you go to load it up.

Keep us updated on how it's going!

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 03-14-2012, 09:56 AM
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  • Teiste
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-Use more product
-Use the brush more

Those are the two answers I can give you.

Do you use circular or painting movements to create the lather?

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 03-14-2012, 10:56 AM
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  • bjorney
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(03-14-2012, 09:56 AM)Teiste Wrote: -Use more product
-Use the brush more

Those are the two answers I can give you.

Do you use circular or painting movements to create the lather?

I use circular movements to create the lather and painting movements to spread it.


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 03-14-2012, 02:05 PM
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post up some photos so we can see what you see and maybe help you out that way.

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 03-14-2012, 02:33 PM
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I would have to agree that maybe just more time with the brush will help!

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 03-15-2012, 06:16 AM
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  • bjorney
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More product and a softer touch did the trick. The lather was great and was enough for 3 passes.

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 03-15-2012, 01:13 PM
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  • freddy
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Excellent, Bjorn. Sometimes, it is as much the characteristics of the shaving soap or cream as it is the brush or the technique used.

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 03-15-2012, 02:17 PM
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There are very few soap problems that using more product won't cure.

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 03-15-2012, 02:21 PM
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Use more product, not just to get the best lather possible, but so you can contact Phil and try some products that you haven't yet!

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 03-16-2012, 05:20 AM
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(03-15-2012, 06:16 AM)bjorney Wrote: More product and a softer touch did the trick. The lather was great and was enough for 3 passes.

Congratulations! It's great when a plan comes together. Like sharpspine commented - using more product = a need to order more.

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