07-30-2018, 10:44 AM
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Looking to get a Sulvertip Plissoft knot, but can't find anyone that sells the knot. Do you know of any suppliers that sell the same knot or something very similar?

The RR brush is just too big, heavy and the loft is too high for my taste, I'd like to put that knot in a custom handle and not sure whether the knot can be easily harvested out of the handle.

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 07-30-2018, 07:19 PM
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Wish I knew to help. It does look like a good knot. Hope someone else can provide some info soon!

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 07-30-2018, 07:27 PM
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  • chazt
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Try Bob Quinn at Elite Razor.

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 07-30-2018, 07:42 PM
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(07-30-2018, 07:27 PM)chazt Wrote: Try Bob Quinn at Elite Razor.

Doesn't look like it based on the website, but I'll ask. Thanks for the pointer.

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 07-31-2018, 05:03 AM
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(07-30-2018, 07:42 PM)SirWhiskers Wrote:
(07-30-2018, 07:27 PM)chazt Wrote: Try Bob Quinn at Elite Razor.

Doesn't look like it based on the website, but I'll ask. Thanks for the pointer.

If I really wanted a brush with that knot, I would spring for a complete RazoRock brush (~$19.00 from Amazon) and send it to someone like Bob or Rudy Vey to cut out the knot and set it in a handle you like.  A simple, direct solution.

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 07-31-2018, 05:26 AM
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(07-31-2018, 05:03 AM)BSWoodturning Wrote:
(07-30-2018, 07:42 PM)SirWhiskers Wrote:
(07-30-2018, 07:27 PM)chazt Wrote: Try Bob Quinn at Elite Razor.

Doesn't look like it based on the website, but I'll ask. Thanks for the pointer.

If I really wanted a brush with that knot, I would spring for a complete RazoRock brush (~$19.00 from Amazon) and send it to someone like Bob or Rudy Vey to cut out the knot and set it in a handle you like.  A simple, direct solution.

Indeed. Is it always possible to remove the knot without damage? I know it has been done for Muhle synthetic knots before, not sure if there's anything special about how Muhle knots are made vs these cheaper knots, how they may be glued to the handle, amount of glue used, etc.

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 07-31-2018, 05:56 AM
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The Plissoft is a variant of the generic Plisson type synthetic.  Bob Quinn at Elite Razor stocks the Plisson type knots, and can set one for you in one of his superb custom handles.  Here are two he did for me:

[Image: JGz7DXg.jpg]

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 07-31-2018, 06:11 AM
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 07-31-2018, 12:09 PM
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(07-31-2018, 05:56 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: The Plissoft is a variant of the generic Plisson type synthetic.  Bob Quinn at Elite Razor stocks the Plisson type knots, and can set one for you in one of his superb custom handles.  Here are two he did for me:

[Image: JGz7DXg.jpg]

Nice work! Does the one on the left have a pattern in the material or it's just the lighting? What size knots and lofts please? I have a Stirling 24x51 and quite like the size, but the knot also has a glue bump so not sure whether all these Plisson style knots are the created equal.

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 07-31-2018, 12:11 PM
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I think I may have found a source for this "Silvertip Plissoft": Milton @ TurnNShave on etsy or ever.shave on the big auction site. Knot called "Full Moon", available in 24mm or 26mm. Turns out Milton makes brushes too, quite nice!

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 07-31-2018, 12:59 PM
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(07-31-2018, 12:09 PM)SirWhiskers Wrote:
(07-31-2018, 05:56 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: The Plissoft is a variant of the generic Plisson type synthetic.  Bob Quinn at Elite Razor stocks the Plisson type knots, and can set one for you in one of his superb custom handles.  Here are two he did for me:

[Image: JGz7DXg.jpg]

Nice work! Does the one on the left have a pattern in the material or it's just the lighting? What size knots and lofts please? I have a Stirling 24x51 and quite like the size, but the knot also has a glue bump so not sure whether all these Plisson style knots are the created equal.

The material on the left does have a swirling like pattern in it. Hard to describe it, but there is some uniqueness to it. I have a brush with the same material.

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 07-31-2018, 04:30 PM
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Doesn't everyone get them from Yaqi ?

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 07-31-2018, 04:32 PM
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(07-31-2018, 04:30 PM)vigilantesd Wrote: Doesn't everyone get them from Yaqi ?

Hard to tell. Asking around, I've heard Lansky mentioned too. Could be the same people behind it or not.

FWIW, one vendor to not be named said the Tuxedo knots in bulk are offered as low as 75c/knot  Shok And I was thinking how can they sell them for $7? Well ... now I know. You pay more in shipping than for the knot itself!

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 07-31-2018, 06:35 PM
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(07-31-2018, 12:09 PM)SirWhiskers Wrote:
(07-31-2018, 05:56 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: The Plissoft is a variant of the generic Plisson type synthetic.  Bob Quinn at Elite Razor stocks the Plisson type knots, and can set one for you in one of his superb custom handles.  Here are two he did for me:

[Image: JGz7DXg.jpg]

Nice work! Does the one on the left have a pattern in the material or it's just the lighting? What size knots and lofts please? I have a Stirling 24x51 and quite like the size, but the knot also has a glue bump so not sure whether all these Plisson style knots are the created equal.

The brush on the left has a 26mm knot, and the one on the right is 28mm.  Both are set to a 55mm loft, which I find ideal for these knots.

The ivory material on the left has a beautiful grain to it.

Set to a 55mm loft, these knots have a small glue bump at the top of the handle.   I have found all the Plisson  type knots to have a glue bump, unless they are set to a loft  below 55mm.

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 07-31-2018, 07:11 PM
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To me it's starting to look like all these "value" synthetic knots are pretty much the same fiber, just a different paint job and they control the backbone with density and glue bumps. I have both the Stirling 24x51 Plissoft and 24x56 Tuxedo and they both have a glue bump, more pronounced in the Tuxedo due to the higher loft. Between the two I prefer the Plissoft type knot.

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 08-01-2018, 07:09 AM
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(07-31-2018, 07:11 PM)SirWhiskers Wrote: To me it's starting to look like all these "value" synthetic knots are pretty much the same fiber, just a different paint job and they control the backbone with density and glue bumps. I have both the Stirling 24x51 Plissoft and 24x56 Tuxedo and they both have a glue bump, more pronounced in the Tuxedo due to the higher loft. Between the two I prefer the Plissoft type knot.

No. Not the same imo. I have a real Plisson, and a couple of Elite Razor "value" knots; super-uber-soft-something-or-other-with-a-brownish-hued knot in a custom handle and a tuxedo knot also in a custom handle. They're quite different from one another. The hyphenated knot is softer than the Plisson. The tuxedo knot is Very, Very similar in feel to the Simpson Chubby 2 (which imo is Very different in feel from the Simfix black handle synth brush). Point is, they all feel significantly different (to me).

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