08-22-2018, 08:31 AM
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Hi,
   I'm curious as to which kind of natural bristle shaving brush would have the maximum backbone and stiffness to it. (or even synthetic bristle too).
Thanks

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 08-22-2018, 08:47 AM
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Boar.

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 08-22-2018, 08:48 AM
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I'm guessing that would likely be a boar brush.  And if you really want maximum stiffness, just wet the brush instead of soaking it.  But I'm curious, why would you need so much stiffness?  That would also translate into a pretty scritchy, if not scratchy, experience.

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 08-22-2018, 09:17 AM
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I associate bristle with boar.  If you are open to badger, a bulb shaped Shavemac D01 two band knot set to a low loft will be very stiff.

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 08-22-2018, 09:35 AM
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I agree that Shavemac D01 two band will stay stiff and stout in the long run over most boar bristle brushes. Except for maybe trimmed boar bristle or bristles from a paint brush.

Anything set to a very low loft would give you the feeling of more backbone. Even silvertip badger if packed tightly and set low in the socket can feel like a tennis ball on your face.

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 08-22-2018, 10:08 AM
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Boar knots un-tamed would be my guess. I have an old Omega knot I never felt broke in. Also some black badger knots had plenty of scritch set low in the handle made them all that much more so.

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 08-22-2018, 11:17 AM
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Shavemac 2-band D01 as already advised being set at a low loft in a bulb knot will get you the stiffest hair you can buy retail still. If you want to aim for unobtainium, try to hunt down a Rooney 1/1 or Stubby 1 in Finest. I think I had a 1/1 if I recall right and that was one stiff sucker.

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 08-22-2018, 11:35 AM
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I like quite a bit of backbone. IME
Stiffest boar: Omega 49 set loooow at 52 and a tight handle opening. A bigger opening is better for a nicer, more uniform splay (just a little, nothing worst than lathering with the hair shaft.
Stiffest badger: shavemac d01 26x50. Mine (still?) has some scritch which makes it not so enjoyable, but the backbone is very nice.
Stiffest synth: tuxedo.
I like natural hair better, leaning towards boar lately.

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 08-22-2018, 12:15 PM
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Wood is a natural fibre, so a 2x4 set in a nice handle should do well...

Jokes aside; a boar set low should provide the most stiffness if my experience is anything to judge by. It'll also be scritchy...

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 08-22-2018, 05:26 PM
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 08-23-2018, 07:12 AM
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Are there different types of boar natural bristles or are they all the same?

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 08-23-2018, 08:08 AM
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(08-23-2018, 07:12 AM)punchy Wrote: Are there different types of boar natural bristles or are they all the same?

Unlike badger where this is an attempt to classify different grades of hair, there is no grading classifications for boar.  That said, not all boar brushes are alike.  I mainly use Omega boar brushes but even among the 3 that I have, there are some differences.  Two of mine are stiffer, and retain a little bit of scritch even after soaking and a reasonable break in period.  And one is shorter loft but significantly more luxurious and soft.  Once a boar is broken in the tips of the hairs split and soften up nicely.  I haven't tried a Semogue but from what I have heard they retain a different character and tend to splay more than the Omegas.  I'm guessing the Omegas have a denser knot while the Semogues are a little looser.  There are other brands but those are the two that I hear mentioned most.  Fortunately boar brushes are pretty inexpensive so you can try a few to see which you like best without spending lots of cash.  Good luck.

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 08-23-2018, 10:08 AM
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Out of my den the Shavemac D01 2 Band 24x45 fills this category. I have in the past had boars that surpassed, but I won’t spend the time to break them in. However, I have the B&B 10TH anniversary on the way. I like the D01 on those hard soaps.


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 08-23-2018, 12:39 PM
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(08-22-2018, 08:31 AM)punchy Wrote: Hi,
   I'm curious as to which kind of natural bristle shaving brush would have the maximum backbone and stiffness to it. (or even synthetic bristle too).
Thanks

Not really, but Semogue is an exception. They classify into different categories. The 620, 830, and SOC are all different grades.

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 08-23-2018, 01:34 PM
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Is is advisable to use a boar brush with creams or should one stick to hard soaps with a boar brush?

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 08-23-2018, 01:38 PM
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(08-23-2018, 01:34 PM)petropn Wrote: Is is advisable to use a boar brush with creams or should one stick to hard soaps with a boar brush?

You can use any brush with soaps or creams.  But my preference is to use a boar for my soaps.  I'll use badger or synthetic for creams and, on occasion, soft soaps.

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 08-23-2018, 03:38 PM
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(08-23-2018, 01:38 PM)MntnMan62 Wrote:
(08-23-2018, 01:34 PM)petropn Wrote: Is is advisable to use a boar brush with creams or should one stick to hard soaps with a boar brush?

You can use any brush with soaps or creams.  But my preference is to use a boar for my soaps.  I'll use badger or synthetic for creams and, on occasion, soft soaps.

Well said!

Zenith boar brushes are my preference, firm, full, and nice soft tips, and they lather like crazy.

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 09-13-2018, 10:40 AM
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I agree with several of the above replies regarding Shavemac 2 band D01.  I have three a 23mm, 25mm and a 26mm.  If you want back bone the D01 has it.

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