09-04-2018, 03:50 PM
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I just received a Maggard 26mm 70/30 badger & boar knot, and a plain black Turn-N-Shave handle. How should I go about glueing the knot into the handle? Which epoxy do you recommend? Thanks.

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 09-04-2018, 03:56 PM
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Lot of tips on U-tube....Most use 2 part epoxy.

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 09-04-2018, 04:50 PM
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A two part epoxy works best, and you only need a small amount on the bottom of the knot.

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 09-04-2018, 06:21 PM
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I am guessing this is your first one. I highly recommend using very little silicon glue in the middle of the knot. This is so you can try different lofts by pulling it out and using spacers (like pieces of cork). Worst thing it falls off and you can always set it for good with 2 part epoxy when you find a loft you like. IME you might even consider a different knot Smile

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 09-04-2018, 08:36 PM
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I agree. Clear silicone.

If you find the loft you like it want it permanently set, used two part epoxy. I prefer the two separate bottle sizes. They're easier top get correct proportions out of the syringe type stuff.

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 09-05-2018, 03:50 PM
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(09-04-2018, 03:56 PM)zipper Wrote: Lot of tips on U-tube....Most use 2 part epoxy.
(09-04-2018, 04:50 PM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: A two part epoxy works best, and you only need a small amount on the bottom of the knot.
Thanks.

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 09-05-2018, 03:52 PM
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(09-04-2018, 06:21 PM)lloydrm Wrote: I am guessing this is your first one. I highly recommend using very little silicon glue in the middle of the knot. This is so you can try different lofts by pulling it out and using spacers (like pieces of cork). Worst thing it falls off and you can always set it for good with 2 part epoxy when you find a loft you like. IME you might even consider a different knot Smile
(09-04-2018, 08:36 PM)bakerbarber Wrote: I agree. Clear silicone.

If you find the loft you like it want it permanently set, used two part epoxy. I prefer the two separate bottle sizes. They're easier top get correct proportions out of the syringe type stuff.
Hmmm... regular bathroom/kitchen silicone caulk?

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 09-05-2018, 04:37 PM
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I have done a couple dozen re-knots.  I have used both silicon and 2 part epoxy.  I prefer the 2 part epoxy (15 min).  I like the set of the epoxy.

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 09-05-2018, 04:52 PM
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(09-05-2018, 03:52 PM)KWilliams40 Wrote: Hmmm... regular bathroom/kitchen silicone caulk?

Yep

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 09-05-2018, 06:42 PM
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You know something else I would do with my reknot was use a quarter in the handle for extra weight. But it's all your choice which makes it more yours. I also use the 2-part marine epoxy that's clear.

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 09-05-2018, 11:15 PM
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I've done a few with success using 2 part epoxy (non)marine type.

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 09-06-2018, 07:12 AM
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The above are all good thoughts.  I'd add a couple suggestions:
  1. Rough-up the knot plug with some medium (120-180) grit sandpaper.  That'll give the adhesive something to hold onto.  
  2. Go LIGHTLY with the adhesive.  A thin coating that covers the base of the socket is all you need.  I'd start with something under "dime" size, then spread it out with a small piece of wood/plastic/whatever to get a nice, even, thin coating.  I say that for a couple reasons: (a) a thin coating creates a stronger bond than a thick one and (b) you're less likely to force adhesive into the hair/fibers, which can be nasty especially when the adhesive "climbs" above the socket rim. (Not that that's EVER happened to me.  Winky ) 

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 09-06-2018, 11:14 AM
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Do you put adhesive just on the bottom of the plug or also on the side of the plug or if you use "just enough"™ glue it will naturally climb up the plug a bit?

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 09-06-2018, 11:25 AM
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You just put a small amount of epoxy on the bottom.  If you use too much, it will be pushed up the sides, which you don't want.

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 09-07-2018, 02:26 PM
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(09-05-2018, 04:37 PM)LookingGlass Wrote: I have done a couple dozen re-knots.  I have used both silicon and 2 part epoxy.  I prefer the 2 part epoxy (15 min).  I like the set of the epoxy.


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 09-08-2018, 07:18 AM
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(09-06-2018, 11:25 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: You just put a small amount of epoxy on the bottom.  If you use too much, it will be pushed up the sides, which you don't want.

Excellent point.  With the epoxy, less is better.  I put about a 1/8 inch on the bottom of the knot hole, press in the knot firmly, and then give the knot about a quarter of a turn.  Even with the 15 minute epoxy I let it cure at least 24 hours.  I have never had a knot come out using this procedure.

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 09-08-2018, 12:26 PM
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I know what doesn't work. Construction adhesive. That stuff never dries.

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 09-09-2018, 03:07 PM
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(09-06-2018, 07:12 AM)BSWoodturning Wrote: The above are all good thoughts.  I'd add a couple suggestions:
  1. Rough-up the knot plug with some medium (120-180) grit sandpaper.  That'll give the adhesive something to hold onto.  
  2. Go LIGHTLY with the adhesive.  A thin coating that covers the base of the socket is all you need.  I'd start with something under "dime" size, then spread it out with a small piece of wood/plastic/whatever to get a nice, even, thin coating.  I say that for a couple reasons: (a) a thin coating creates a stronger bond than a thick one and (b) you're less likely to force adhesive into the hair/fibers, which can be nasty especially when the adhesive "climbs" above the socket rim. (Not that that's EVER happened to me.  Winky ) 
Thanks!

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 09-09-2018, 03:10 PM
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(09-05-2018, 06:42 PM)Garb Wrote: You know something else I would do with my reknot was use a quarter in the handle for extra weight. But it's all your choice which makes it more yours. I also use the 2-part marine epoxy that's clear.

i think the quarter will make it harder for you grandchildren to drill the knot out when it's time (finally) to re-knot!  Just thinkin'...

Tom

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 09-09-2018, 03:18 PM
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Any issues with rust or oxidation depending on what coins you put in the handles? Sounds like a piece of cork or plastic washer may work better to give the knot a higher loft, if handle weight is not what you're after.

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