09-10-2012, 04:49 PM
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  • Teiste
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Well,this cant be a "versus",since the brushes dont share the same kind of badger hair,but I hope it could give you an insight of both brushes (well,my thoughts and experiences with them) and also a good entertaining for 5 minutes.Biggrin

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These are,possibly,the most famous Simpson series brushes in the world,and well appraised and love for many traditional wet shavers.

I had 3 Simpson Duke 3 brushes : two in best badger and one in super badger two band,so I think I know a little bit,this beast.

However,in the other hand,I had tried the Simpson Chubby 1 super badger twice (shaved with it) but tested it with palm and bowl lathering over 10 times.

I do have an experience with brushes,but,of course,I cant jump into conclusions after trying a brush twice.But,as I think have explained before,sometimes you simply fall in love with a brush the first time you use it,sometimes that love "grows" with time and sometimes you are simply indifferent to it.The second happened to me with the Simpson Duke 3 and the third,so far,with the Chubby 1.

The Duke 3 has the following specs :
  • Around 24 mm knot
  • 47mm loft
  • 95 mm total height

so we can consider it a medium size brush.

The Simpson Chubby 1 has the following measures :
  • 23 mm knot
  • 47 mm loft
  • 88mm total height

and we can consider it a small brush,like the Classic 1 or the Rooney 1/1.

Both brushes are well packed with quality badger hair (silvertip),even when Simpson named one as "best badger" and the other "super badger".The hair quality is there,cant be denied,and other makers will dream to have such excellent hair in their silvertip range of brushes.

We also know that the Chubby is the most packed badger hair series of all that Simpson makes,but how much if we compare it to the Duke 3?.Well,lets see some pics :

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We can see in this pic taken from the top,that the Chubby 1 has more packed hair than the Duke 3,but I wouldnt say more than 10%.I dont have my Classic 1 here (the owner of the Chubby 1 has it) but I can tell that is not also less packed than the Chubby.

Another pic :

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As I said,the Chubby 1 is more packed,but not with an extra huge amount of hair more,but 10/15% more.Does it makes a difference?Oh yes,it does.

Both brushes have the same loft (approx 47 mm) as you can see in this pic :

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but one has a much better flow than the other...could you guess which one? Yes,good answer! : the Duke 3 has a better flow due to having less hair,so that could increase the flow.The Chubby 1 feels more like a "wall of badger" and the flow is not as good.

Is that a problem?No at all,but also depends what are you looking for.I do like brushes with flow.Not floppy brushes,but with flow.In the past I was looking for the most firmer brush and now I look to find a good brush with the right amount of backbone and flow.Both Duke 3 best badger brushes I owned have that amount.

The handles.Once again I use this pic for you to check :

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The Duke 3 has a taller handle,and honestly,its easier to hold and more comfortable to use.I have found the Chubby 1 handle kind of uncomfortable to use,kind of weird,due to the thickness of the handle and not the much space to put my finger to hold it right (or as I like).
For me,the Duke 3 wins this battle clearly,even the Duke 2,for me,has a better handle than the Chubby 1.

And what about the hair?Is it that difference? I must say,is different but no,not that much.We are talking about Simpson,and we are talking about a maker which been offering the best badger brush available for almost 100 years.The best badger for Simpson would be a super extra quality silvertip hair for many brush makers out there,and the same with super badger 3 band so,at the end,the difference is not that big (or Im lucky enough to have a very good best badger hair on my Duke 3).

The tips are white in both brushes,but a little bit more in the Super Badger Chubby :

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Both brushes offers soft tips,but the Chubby 1 has more scritch due to the high density of hair and less flow,but this is normal.

Also,and I know this is not an issue for many (right John! Wink ) the Chubby 1 is a lather hog and I have experienced that a couple times now.The Duke 3 not that much.

I have used both brushes for both facelathering and bowl lathering,with creams and soaps.The Duke 3 is a better performer in bowl lathering.Can I use the Chubby 1 for that task?Of course you can!I have even used a Wee Scot for bowl lathering,but,is it designed for that?Im afraid not.The Chubby 1 performs good with facelathering with painting strokes and circular ones and eats soaps.The Duke 3 the same,but with the plus that is easy to operate while bowl lathering with it.

So,my overall experience with both brushes (well,not that overall with the Chubby 1) tells me that,for me and the way that I like to create/make lather,the Duke 3 is the best option.But the Duke 3 is a brush that I can put to "compete" with many brushes and will make them "bite the dust".

If we finally compare prices,not fair since the super badger is always gonna be more expensive,the Duke 3 wins the battle clearly since it provides a :

-better handle,easy to hold.
-more hair flow.
-good with both face and bowl lathering.
-not a lather hog

while the Chubby 1 offers :

-lots of hair!
-soft tips with a scritch (the die hard face latherers love that)

and both have the Simpson brand charming , and history behind them.What else can you ask for?

I remember reading Mr Gary Young saying that the Chubby,the Duke and the Wee Scot were the fav brushes among his family members.I truly can see why.

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 09-10-2012, 05:22 PM
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Great review, Tieste, thank you.

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 09-10-2012, 06:38 PM
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  • mikeperry
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Hi Teiste

Thank you for the review, which happens to include 2 of the 3 (possibly 4) Simpsons shaving brushes on my Wish List Thumbsup

The more I think about it, plus the more I hear about those 3 (possible 4) Simpsons shaving brushes the more I'm convinced the Duke 3 will have to be the first one of those shaving brushes ticked off my Wish List.

Take care, Mike

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 09-10-2012, 07:52 PM
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Thanks for the information, Teiste.

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 09-10-2012, 08:49 PM
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I truly appreciate your time and effort for the review.
Thanks.

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 09-10-2012, 09:27 PM
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Great post there Teiste. I know I couldn't be without any of these 2 brushes.

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 09-10-2012, 09:51 PM
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Nice work "T" thanks....

Julian

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 09-10-2012, 09:55 PM
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  • beartrap
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You're the man! Great review as always. One of these days, you gotta make a tutorial on how you take beautiful shots of brushes.

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 09-10-2012, 10:22 PM
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(09-10-2012, 09:55 PM)beartrap Wrote: You're the man! Great review as always. One of these days, you gotta make a tutorial on how you take beautiful shots of brushes.

From what he's told me, it's probably similar to this: http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/07/how...tudio.html

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 09-10-2012, 10:44 PM
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  • Johnny
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Another EXCELLENT review Teiste. I had a Duke 3 in best badger and sold it about two years ago. To this day I'm still sorry I did that. Someday I will own another one (in best badger).

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 09-10-2012, 10:47 PM
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(09-10-2012, 10:22 PM)asharperrazor Wrote:
(09-10-2012, 09:55 PM)beartrap Wrote: You're the man! Great review as always. One of these days, you gotta make a tutorial on how you take beautiful shots of brushes.

From what he's told me, it's probably similar to this: http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/07/how...tudio.html

Amazingly simple! As everything genius Wink

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 09-11-2012, 06:13 AM
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  • Teiste
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(09-10-2012, 10:22 PM)asharperrazor Wrote:
(09-10-2012, 09:55 PM)beartrap Wrote: You're the man! Great review as always. One of these days, you gotta make a tutorial on how you take beautiful shots of brushes.

From what he's told me, it's probably similar to this: http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/07/how...tudio.html

You are the man,Lee. Thats very simple and so easy to do,and yes,its what I have done.

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 09-11-2012, 03:23 PM
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I owned a Chubby (my first real brush), and a Duke 3, and I'm coming full circle-I'm waiting on the Chubby again, while the Duke is in my sights. Thanks for the review!

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 09-11-2012, 05:49 PM
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Thanks for a great review, Teiste Number_one

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 09-13-2012, 09:27 AM
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Hi Teiste, I'm curious about the brush size on face during use. Since both having same loft height, are they having similar size on face or one is bigger?
Thanks.

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 09-13-2012, 11:04 AM
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  • Teiste
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(09-13-2012, 09:27 AM)hon Wrote: Hi Teiste, I'm curious about the brush size on face during use. Since both having same loft height, are they having similar size on face or one is bigger?
Thanks.

Duke 3 is bigger,since its not as packed as the Chubby 1,so it can bloom a little bit more evident.

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 09-13-2012, 02:48 PM
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Excellent again, Teiste. Am developing a rather unhealthy obsession for Simpson brushes. Absolute furthest my budget could stretch would be the Commodore X3 but a Colonel X2L is probably more realistic. The Duke is truly lovely but will have to remain a pipe dream. Hmmm, Vulfix 2234 or Simpsons Colonel X2L?

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 09-13-2012, 03:23 PM
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(09-13-2012, 02:48 PM)Gairdner Wrote: Excellent again, Teiste. Am developing a rather unhealthy obsession for Simpson brushes. Absolute furthest my budget could stretch would be the Commodore X3 but a Colonel X2L is probably more realistic. The Duke is truly lovely but will have to remain a pipe dream. Hmmm, Vulfix 2234 or Simpsons Colonel X2L?

Both brushes are good,and almost,with the same measures.I prefer the handle of the 2234 and the super badger hair is very soft on the tips.

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 09-13-2012, 08:20 PM
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Wow, I thought my Duke 3 was dense...that Chubby is PACKED!

I don't know that I could deal with a handle any smaller than the Duke though.

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 09-13-2012, 11:23 PM
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(09-13-2012, 08:20 PM)VT_Hokie Wrote: Wow, I thought my Duke 3 was dense...that Chubby is PACKED!

I don't know that I could deal with a handle any smaller than the Duke though.

I thought that I was going to like the Chubby 1 handle , but I didnt.I like the Classic 1 handle much better and the Duke 3 handle is one of those ones that you can say its almost "perfect" (is such thing exist).

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