09-11-2012, 10:43 AM
#1
User Info
I have done several brush restores, mostly Ever-Readys. Most are with The Golden Nib 18mm silvertip grade A knots (I like 'em small); the others have synthetic knots. I have two more Ever-Readys and with all of the positive press Finest knots get, I figured it might be time for one.

I've never tried one. Can someone give me a sense for the face feel of a TGN Finest knot? I know they have more backbone, so how do they compare with, say, a well broken-in boar? I like soft tips and don't mind backbone, but if a Finest feels like a brand new, un-broken-in boar, then it might not be for me.

Thanks!
Dave

7 138
Reply
 09-11-2012, 10:49 AM
#2
User Info
TGN Finest feels like.... Their regular silvertip (maybe slightly softer) with more backbone because the individual hairs are thicker.

Simpsons best with a bit more scritch and more backbone would also be accurate.

Actually, it's probably similar to the TSN LE 2012 brush in all boar.

9 3,036
Reply
 09-11-2012, 10:54 AM
#3
  • Johnny
  • MODERATOR EMERITUS
  • Wausau, Wisconsin, USA
User Info
I believe the TSN LE 2012 has a lot more backbone than an all badger brush.

I've read good things about the TGN Finest and might give some a try one of these days.

178 23,807
Reply
 09-11-2012, 11:13 AM
#4
  • Teiste
  • Moderator Emeritus
  • Salt Lake City,UT
User Info
It feels nice,lil bit of scritch and good backbone with a right amount of flow (depending on the loft too,of course).Lee gave you a very good description of it.
The old finest badger,was (IMHO) a better knot with ultra soft tips (gel alike,basically) but the tips weren't that white and maybe less backbone too,but better flow for sure.

88 7,214
Reply
 09-11-2012, 11:19 AM
#5
User Info
Thanks, all. Teiste, by a little bit of scritch, is that also when using a painting motion to apply lather, or mostly when face lathering?

Dave

7 138
Reply
 09-11-2012, 11:23 AM
#6
  • Teiste
  • Moderator Emeritus
  • Salt Lake City,UT
User Info
(09-11-2012, 11:19 AM)DavidB Wrote: Thanks, all. Teiste, by a little bit of scritch, is that also when using a painting motion to apply lather, or mostly when face lathering?

Dave

When facelathering with circular strokes,not with painting strokes.Actually,is almost impossible to feel any scratchiness or scritchiness from a brush if you apply the lather with painting motions,or at least,with the technique I apply.

88 7,214
Reply
 09-11-2012, 11:36 AM
#7
User Info
bottom line, they feel fantastic.

8 2,718
Reply
 09-11-2012, 11:42 AM
#8
  • oscar11
  • Senior Member
  • North Dakota
User Info
Quote: Can someone give me a sense for the face feel of a TGN Finest knot?
They feel good. That might be an over simplification but I like them. My experience with high dollar brushes is limited and I'm not sure I'm sophisticated enough to be able to tell the difference but I know what I like. I haven't been wowed by a big name a brush yet. I do believe there is too dense in a knot and the TGN seems to be a nice compromise. To me, 24, 26, 28 30mm TGN's are hard to beat in 2 band. I have run into prickly with Simpson best but not with TGN 2 band. asharperrazor is pretty much spot, IMO.

12 743
Reply
 09-11-2012, 11:52 AM
#9
  • mikeperry
  • Senior Member
  • St Louis via the UK
User Info
(09-11-2012, 11:19 AM)DavidB Wrote: Thanks, all. Teiste, by a little bit of scritch, is that also when using a painting motion to apply lather, or mostly when face lathering?

Hi Dave

You might be interested in this post...

Bottom line I don't think you would be disappointed with a The Golden Nib Finest knot, it's a (very) good knot at a reasonable price (IMHO).

Take care, Mike

23 1,872
Reply
 09-11-2012, 11:59 AM
#10
User Info
Thanks, gents. Looks like a Finest is in my future!

Dave

7 138
Reply
 09-11-2012, 12:07 PM
#11
User Info
(09-11-2012, 11:59 AM)DavidB Wrote: Thanks, gents. Looks like a Finest is in my future!

Dave

i know this statement will cause some people to say NO WAY, but here it goes.

i put a TGN 2 band finest, extra hair, 24mm in my Vulvix 404 and it's good a feeling brush as any i have (simpson, shavemac, thater, m&f) and cost me a whopping total of under $50 for both handle and knot.

it is a fantastic knot.

8 2,718
Reply
 09-11-2012, 12:28 PM
#12
User Info
I have 3 brushes with TGN finest knots.

One is gel like, the tips hook when wet. It feels amazing.

The other 2 are very similar to my higher priced knots in look and feel.

Overall, I can't detect any noticeable scritch with mine. Backbone is excellent and overall, these are fantastic, reasonably priced knots. Better than silvertip and the like IMO.

7 1,182
Reply
 09-11-2012, 12:36 PM
#13
  • Samjax
  • Active Member
  • Clearwater, Florida
User Info
Rudy Vey made me a custom using the 2 Band Finest. After he made the custom wooden handle - it turnd out to be 32/55...which is an amazing feeling brush on the face. It works remarkably well with both soaps and creams - very, very little (if any) scritch and more than enough backbone to keep me happy.

Better than my SOC 2 Band - not as nice as my Chubby 3 Super - but for the money, very nice indeed.

I'm actually considering another TGN knot - maybe a Silvertip Grade A...just to try one out. If you get the loft set right on the TGNs, they provide a tremendous return on your money.

36 489
Reply
 09-11-2012, 01:01 PM
#14
User Info
plus however many others have recommended the TGN finest. It's a matter of preference whether you'll find it the best knot you've ever tried or even comparable to the very high end knots as Bruce suggests, but one thing that isn't arguable is that it is simply the best value for the money of any knot out there. I don't think it's in the same league as my Thater 2 band, for instance, but at 1/5th the price it doesn't have to be. I have one each of these knots in 16mm, 22mm and 24mm and another in 26mm on the way. They get regular use and perform fantastically.

5 298
Reply
 09-11-2012, 01:25 PM
#15
User Info
To add, TGN Finest knots have the greatest variability amongst all their knots. The Finest hair is not graded in the same manner as Silvertip. There isn't enough demand for such stringent grading.

As such, you will receive a knot that may be awesome, or may be on the lower end.

Also, I don't find them to be very densely packed (they used to be), so if that is what you are after, I suggest you look elsewhere, but to where is an even better question as TGN basically has a monopoly on affordable knots.

The TGN silvertip grades have been pretty uniform in my experience with them.

9 3,036
Reply
 09-11-2012, 02:16 PM
#16
User Info
(09-11-2012, 11:36 AM)Bruce Wrote: bottom line, they feel fantastic.

Yep. I got to agree with this Smile

2 5,547
Reply
 09-11-2012, 02:20 PM
#17
  • Teiste
  • Moderator Emeritus
  • Salt Lake City,UT
User Info
(09-11-2012, 01:01 PM)oakeshott Wrote: plus however many others have recommended the TGN finest. It's a matter of preference whether you'll find it the best knot you've ever tried or even comparable to the very high end knots as Bruce suggests, but one thing that isn't arguable is that it is simply the best value for the money of any knot out there. I don't think it's in the same league as my Thater 2 band,for instance, but at 1/5th the price it doesn't have to be. I have one each of these knots in 16mm, 22mm and 24mm and another in 26mm on the way. They get regular use and perform fantastically.

For me,some of the TGN knots are on the same league than the Thater two band,but I only have tried one (Thater two band,I mean) and plenty TGN.

However,Lee have pointed something interesting which I found it to be true : some of them have a excellent quality,other have a good quality and other aren't that good.The 18mm knots,for example, aren't that great.(I have tried 3) and the same with the 16 mm (I had two and tried one).

88 7,214
Reply
 09-11-2012, 03:58 PM
#18
User Info
I have a 22mm TGN Finest Fan and it's almost as soft as my Rooney 3/1 SS, but with more backbone.

I doubt you'll be disappointed. It's a nice knot. Not sparse at all IMO.

32 6,459
Reply
 09-11-2012, 07:52 PM
#19
User Info
I just ordered a 22mm finest XH and am 18mm finest from TGN. What is a good loft for the 22mm? 50mm? 52mm?

Dave

7 138
Reply
 09-11-2012, 07:58 PM
#20
User Info
(09-11-2012, 07:52 PM)DavidB Wrote: I just ordered a 22mm finest XH and am 18mm finest from TGN. What is a good loft for the 22mm? 50mm? 52mm?

Dave

Minimum depth of the hole should be 13mm. Other than that, whatever you like. That's the beauty of making your own brush.

9 3,036
Reply
Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)