12-11-2018, 04:26 PM
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I bought a 5/8  torrey and a 11/16 wade and butcher.  I was going to have them both restored by maggard, but want to rescale one (not both) and was going to give away/sell the other one.  I don't know anything about straight razors.  Can someone please give some input for how they feel or is it basically what I like and I have to use them first?

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 12-11-2018, 04:30 PM
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 12-11-2018, 06:19 PM
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Which one is in better condition?  That is the one I would choose to restore.  Either one can be a fine shaver.

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 12-12-2018, 01:10 AM
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Butcher

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 12-12-2018, 03:00 AM
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[Image: tenor.png]

I know; space to store, time to use, etc. Ricardo has a good suggestion if you'll keep just one.

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 12-12-2018, 04:28 AM
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The one with less honewear, more even blade and spine, and less pitting near the edge.

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 12-12-2018, 05:12 AM
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Neither of the razors have pitting issues.  They are both in great condition.  I could restore both and put new scales on one later once I decide.  The Wade and Butcher is considerably heavier and may be a little harder to maneuver.

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 12-12-2018, 05:21 AM
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The hollow Torrey.  Not a huge fan of small wedges...YMMV. When they get as much hone wear as the Butcher has they are usually a good candidate for a regrind.

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 12-13-2018, 03:48 AM
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(12-12-2018, 03:00 AM)WegianWarrior Wrote: [Image: tenor.png]

I know; space to store, time to use, etc. Ricardo has a good suggestion if you'll keep just one.


+1

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 12-13-2018, 05:18 AM
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Thanks.  I guess i'll have to get them both restored, figure out which one I like more, then put the new scales on that one.

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 12-13-2018, 12:50 PM
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I really don't want to be the party pooper, but neither is worth restoring if you do not have a sentimental attachment (grandpas's razor). I take it you do not as you are will to sell or give the other away. Both are worth honing and will give you a great shave. 

When I first started, I emailed  Alfredo (Doc226) and he talked me out of a restoration. I am truly appreciative of his advice. Restoring a razor can be pretty expensive ($200+). Just rescaling will run $90ish.  

The rule of thumb for straight razor value is, the bigger the more expensive. That being said, a 5/8 or 11/16 razor is rarely worth paying someone to restore. The exception would be a truly rare razor or one having sentimental value. 

For the price of restoring a razor, you can get a really nice, and visually appealing vintage razor, or modern if that's your thing. 

I am sorry if I offend you, trust me that is not my intention. In fact, Brad Maggard has a link on his page about what razors to restore. He says the same thing. I would post a link but I am not sure if it's allowed. 

Again, I would send them off to be honed and give them a try. They are good brands/steel and definitely worth using. Honing both will run about $20 each. It is worth having two as you will want to keep using one when you send the other out to refresh the edge.

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 12-13-2018, 01:43 PM
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(12-13-2018, 12:50 PM)Gabe Wrote: I really don't want to be the party pooper, but neither is worth restoring if you do not have a sentimental attachment (grandpas's razor). I take it you do not as you are will to sell or give the other away. Both are worth honing and will give you a great shave. 

When I first started, I emailed  Alfredo (Doc226) and he talked me out of a restoration. I am truly appreciative of his advice. Restoring a razor can be pretty expensive ($200+). Just rescaling will run $90ish.  

The rule of thumb for straight razor value is, the bigger the more expensive. That being said, a 5/8 or 11/16 razor is rarely worth paying someone to restore. The exception would be a truly rare razor or one having sentimental value. 

For the price of restoring a razor, you can get a really nice, and visually appealing vintage razor, or modern if that's your thing. 

I am sorry if I offend you, trust me that is not my intention. In fact, Brad Maggard has a link on his page about what razors to restore. He says the same thing. I would post a link but I am not sure if it's allowed. 

Again, I would send them off to be honed and give them a try. They are good brands/steel and definitely worth using. Honing both will run about $20 each. It is worth having two as you will want to keep using one when you send the other out to refresh the edge.

i contacted brad and he said 'These are definitely worth restoring'.  The restoration quote was WAY below your numbers.  My question was pertaining to the differences between a 5/8 to 6/8 and wedge vs hollow and how they shave differently.    Thanks.

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 12-13-2018, 02:52 PM
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Let's keep in mind that the cost of a restoration depends on both the condition of the razor and the degree of restoration.   A full, high end restoration with nice custom scales can cost $200, as suggested by Gabe.  There are also light restorations which cost substantially less.

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 12-13-2018, 03:36 PM
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(12-13-2018, 01:43 PM)asiliski Wrote:
(12-13-2018, 12:50 PM)Gabe Wrote: I really don't want to be the party pooper, but neither is worth restoring if you do not have a sentimental attachment (grandpas's razor). I take it you do not as you are will to sell or give the other away. Both are worth honing and will give you a great shave. 

When I first started, I emailed  Alfredo (Doc226) and he talked me out of a restoration. I am truly appreciative of his advice. Restoring a razor can be pretty expensive ($200+). Just rescaling will run $90ish.  

The rule of thumb for straight razor value is, the bigger the more expensive. That being said, a 5/8 or 11/16 razor is rarely worth paying someone to restore. The exception would be a truly rare razor or one having sentimental value. 

For the price of restoring a razor, you can get a really nice, and visually appealing vintage razor, or modern if that's your thing. 

I am sorry if I offend you, trust me that is not my intention. In fact, Brad Maggard has a link on his page about what razors to restore. He says the same thing. I would post a link but I am not sure if it's allowed. 

Again, I would send them off to be honed and give them a try. They are good brands/steel and definitely worth using. Honing both will run about $20 each. It is worth having two as you will want to keep using one when you send the other out to refresh the edge.

i contacted brad and he said 'These are definitely worth restoring'.  The restoration quote was WAY below your numbers.  My question was pertaining to the differences between a 5/8 to 6/8 and wedge vs hollow and how they shave differently.    Thanks.

That's great news. I have had the pleasure of owning a razor restored by Brad. He doe great work. The grind was a little too heavy for my tastes, but I LOVED the look. If you are asking about the wedge or hollow, that's personal preference. 

Please post a pic of the finished razors.  Thumbup

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 01-23-2019, 12:06 PM
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I took gabe's advice and picked up this beauty off of Ebay.  I have to say the weight and balance of the 6/8 feel much better than the 5/8.  All three are going to Maggard for mild restoration (de rust, hone).  I am only going to keep one (most likely the 6/8 Torrey) and sell the other two at cost.

Does anyone know how Shefield steel is different than that of a Hart or other modern steel?

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 02-15-2019, 05:17 PM
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(12-13-2018, 12:50 PM)Gabe Wrote: I really don't want to be the party pooper, but neither is worth restoring if you do not have a sentimental attachment (grandpas's razor). I take it you do not as you are will to sell or give the other away. Both are worth honing and will give you a great shave. 

When I first started, I emailed  Alfredo (Doc226) and he talked me out of a restoration. I am truly appreciative of his advice. Restoring a razor can be pretty expensive ($200+). Just rescaling will run $90ish.  

The rule of thumb for straight razor value is, the bigger the more expensive. That being said, a 5/8 or 11/16 razor is rarely worth paying someone to restore. The exception would be a truly rare razor or one having sentimental value. 

For the price of restoring a razor, you can get a really nice, and visually appealing vintage razor, or modern if that's your thing. 

I am sorry if I offend you, trust me that is not my intention. In fact, Brad Maggard has a link on his page about what razors to restore. He says the same thing. I would post a link but I am not sure if it's allowed. 

Again, I would send them off to be honed and give them a try. They are good brands/steel and definitely worth using. Honing both will run about $20 each. It is worth having two as you will want to keep using one when you send the other out to refresh the edge.

These just came in the mail from Maggard Razors (honing/light restoration).  I am most giddy about the 248 (6/8)

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 02-15-2019, 05:39 PM
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Brad did a very nice job on those Andrew.  You may want to keep all three.

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 02-17-2019, 12:49 PM
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Those came out great. Have you used them yet?

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 02-17-2019, 06:38 PM
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(02-17-2019, 12:49 PM)Gabe Wrote: Those came out great. Have you used them yet?

I used the 6/8 torrey and did not cut myself once.  I did, however, scrape my neck a few times with the point.  They look bad, but did not bleed so they'll heal pretty quickly.  I'm going to lean on the 5/8 because it's a round point and a bit safer.

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 02-17-2019, 07:08 PM
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Those restores came out excellent!

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