02-12-2019, 10:24 AM
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Hey folks,

I had a reeducation last night on the importance of a proper soap lather. I was not only trying a new soap, but a soft soap as well, which I don't have much experience lathering.

I usually face lather, but because of the softness of the soap I decided to use my CC brass bowl. The first lather was thin and didn't provide much in the way of cushion or slickness.

For the second pass I decided to add more soap to my brush, but this resulted in a thick creamy lather. Too thick. Too creamy. The second pass resulted in providing me with zero protection to my face.

The end result: a poor shave with irritation and blood. No good!

My lesson: if I can't get a good lather with a new soap don't use it. Switch to what I know and practice lathering the new soap in the mean time.

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 02-12-2019, 10:19 PM
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  • chrism
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I really can't stress enough how important a good lather is when it comes to shaving. People seem to focus more on the razor and blade or brush (I was one of them who thought I needed to spend a fortune on an expensive razor to get a good shave), but lather is the one thing that can make your shave fantastic.

When I first started shaving with DE I was looking for the perfect razor and didn't spend much time looking at creams and soaps, but as soon as I started using a good quality soap and spent the time to really produce proper lather did my shaves excel to the next level - the razor becomes less of a factor.

If I was giving any advice to someone starting out on their DE journey, it would be to focus first on producing really good lather as it makes all the difference to the shave.

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 02-13-2019, 01:14 AM
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Hi guys, what soap do you prefer? I use mainly SV .I've tried cheaper ones, but cannot get the same quality lather.

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 02-13-2019, 07:05 AM
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I agree with all that is said.  My technique is good, I have quality gear, and smooth razors, but none of that matters if my lather isn't good.  When I have lather issues with a new soap, it's usually a case of under hydration.  I worked to get my lather to look like the lather you see in "lather porn".  I found out the hard way that such lather doesn't have enough water.

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 02-13-2019, 11:37 AM
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  • Mel S Meles
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(02-12-2019, 10:19 PM)chrism Wrote: If I was giving any advice to someone starting out on their DE journey, it would be to focus first on producing really good lather as it makes all the difference to the shave.

I have been trying hard to think os any way that I could agree with that statement, and have failed.  

Many, maybe most, brushless shave creams generate no lather at all, but can return an excellent shave when used according to directions.  Examples with which I am personally familiar are Aubrey Organics Mens Stock and Kiss My Face 4-in-1, the latter being a product that can be used either as a brushless cream (no lather) or, with a brush, as lather fuel; I am certain that there are many others.

Aside from the above, you can ask ten different men what qualities are necessary for a “really good lather” and get eleven different answers:  opinions vary widely.  So what the advice one would give about “really good lather” is at least ambiguous, and probably meaningless.

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 02-13-2019, 02:38 PM
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I have stressed for years the importance of an excellent lather. It's critical to a great shave and even more so when folks move to more aggressive razors.

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 02-13-2019, 03:36 PM
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  • Mel S Meles
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(02-13-2019, 02:38 PM)ShadowsDad Wrote: I have stressed for years the importance of an excellent lather. It's critical to a great shave and even more so when folks move to more aggressive razors.

So it is your opinion that all brushless shaving creams are worthless garbage, because there is no way that you can get a good shave using one?

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 02-13-2019, 06:00 PM
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I agree that the quality of your lather has a direct impact on the quality of a shave and a poor lather can be the instigator of a poor shave.

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 02-14-2019, 07:27 AM
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I agree with the OP’s and others point for most soaps. However, my experience with Tabac, Cella, and Arko is that they are effective and protective without fussing with “dialing in “ the lather. Very wide sweet spot...

I also agree with @mel on brushless creams—at least those I’ve tried. When I was having trouble with very shaky hands (tremor) I used a mild 2 blade disposable and a tube of Trader Joe’s SC that was the most protective stuff in the cabinet. Amazing few weeks of shaves while learning to handle tremor. If I hadn’t had so much stuff to use up, I might have changed to brushless. In fact, when I finish the last of my stash, later this year, I plan to try other brushless creams (as well as some artisan soaps).


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 02-18-2019, 11:02 AM
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I used the soap that gave me an issue, and the soap that inspired my OP, and it performed beautifully.

I face lathered and the soaps performance was as I expected.

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 02-18-2019, 12:20 PM
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(02-13-2019, 01:14 AM)Roy Wrote: Hi guys, what soap do you prefer? I use mainly SV .I've tried cheaper ones, but cannot get the same quality lather.
I love SV , MWF is great too. As someone else mentioned KISS MY FACE, I think it's a foolproof soap.
I love the Cyril R Salter Shaving Creams too, French Vetiver and the Rose are great IMHO.... Cheers

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