03-16-2019, 02:14 PM
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  • Shaun
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  • St Peters, NSW, Australia
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I have a question for readers. Is this a 2-band, or a 3-band? 

I'm leaning toward 2, even though there is a line of lighter hair at the base of the knot.

The loft is lop-sided, clearly, but I'm pretty sure it's only because it had been leaning against something for years.

This 1960s mint and unused "Haute Montagne" gem is on its way to me from London. I have never seen the type of lettering as shown on its handle. Decal, yes. 

I am uncertain as to the size. The seller tells me it measures 90mm in total, and has a '4' stamped on the base, but I'll be checking when it arrives, of course. It might take about ten business days to arrive here in Sydney, but I'll post with the results.

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 03-16-2019, 02:19 PM
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  • garyg
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Very pretty - hope it survives transportation .. I'd vote 2 band, knowing that the badger can't put me to the lie

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 03-16-2019, 02:53 PM
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  • Shaun
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(03-16-2019, 02:19 PM)garyg Wrote: Very pretty - hope it survives transportation .. I'd vote 2 band, knowing that the badger can't put me to the lie

Hmm. Maybe I should set up a little survey? Brilliant, Shaun Smile

If only I could remember how Smile

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 03-16-2019, 04:17 PM
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  • Barrylu
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It is as much a two band as Plisson ever gets

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 03-16-2019, 05:14 PM
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  • Shaun
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(03-16-2019, 04:17 PM)Barrylu Wrote: It is as much a two band as Plisson ever gets

I have heard it said that Plisson once considered 2-band inferior to three. It would seem odd if that were true. Why would they then bother using HMW? Surely Plisson made brushes to suit customer tastes? It would make perfect sense to me to make a smaller brush like this in 2-band because of the relatively narrow knot (which, in this case, I will need to measure) and to balance things, the knot would also need to be a little higher than 3-band. Uncertain.

Thoughts?

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 03-16-2019, 07:52 PM
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I vote for 2 band.  Plissons have high lofts.  If that brush had the lower lower loft typical of many other brushes, there would be no doubt it was a 2 band.

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 03-17-2019, 01:10 AM
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 03-17-2019, 06:03 AM
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  • Bony
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Great find Shaun. For me also looks like two band. This brush is probably more than 20 years old and as far as I know there was very limited numbers in the small sizes 12&14 in 2 band ever produced . Enjoy!

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 03-17-2019, 11:38 AM
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  • Shaun
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Thank you, Boyan, yes, seems there is agreement on 2-band. The brush is certainly more than 20 years old. Closer to 55. Wink

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 03-18-2019, 05:49 AM
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Nice brush! Definitely a two band.

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 03-18-2019, 01:27 PM
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  • blzrfn
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I believe it is a regular HMW brush, but due to the small size the knot is shorter lofted than the more typical models.  I have owned a couple of size 6 Plissons and they are quite delightful.  Mine both had a 17mm knot with a 47mm loft.  I'm also not certain that Plisson even distinguished two-band hair options until this century, but you should check with them directly for clarification.

[Image: eFKzueE.jpg]Size 6 on the left, Size 22 and 14 for comparison.

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 03-18-2019, 03:27 PM
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  • Shaun
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(03-18-2019, 01:27 PM)blzrfn Wrote: I believe it is a regular HMW brush, but due to the small size the knot is shorter lofted than the more typical models.  I have owned a couple of size 6 Plissons and they are quite delightful.  Mine both had a 17mm knot with a 47mm loft.  I'm also not certain that Plisson even distinguished two-band hair options until this century, but you should check with them directly for clarification.

Interesting observations, Dave. I’ll check the dimensions out when I can. Personally, I have no particular preference for banding with this little brush, but the issue of loft insertion depth does question the veracity of a purely visual aesthetic assessment. After all, banding should be more about qualities other than looks - face feel, firmness, etc. True.
I have the feeling this brush might be smaller than we’re assuming, but we shall see!

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