03-27-2019, 02:56 PM
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(03-27-2019, 01:45 PM)Shaun Wrote:
(03-27-2019, 12:55 PM)bennett Wrote: Where do you find all these hidden gems Shaun?

I hunt them down, and sometimes just chance upon them. It requires routine, systematic checking. Part of my advantage is being located in Australia where the popularity of wet shaving is nowhere near as pronounced as it is in the USA or the UK. I find stuff in junk stalls, too, places like that. Having said that, this brush was found in the UK. The razors and other items this brush was found with date to the late 50s, early 1960s, which assists with estimating the vintage. Sometimes items are not called by the right name, either, so if you were to search "Plisson", say, on the net, you would likely find one at some point, but sellers often don't finely detail what the item is, actually. And they wouldn't, unless they were themselves collectors. In that case, you just have to trawl through pages of 'shaving brush' items. Sometimes you just have luck. Maybe I'm just lucky?

You put in the hard work which is the lion's share of finding such rarities. Luck just happens to favor those who are persistent in their efforts I feel.

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 03-27-2019, 03:21 PM
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  • chazt
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Don’t know how I missed this thread. WOW! The brush is so elegant. Tres haute. And, those lucite beauties are very classy, too. Plisson brushes have a certain sex-appeal. Must be because they’re French.

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 03-28-2019, 02:09 PM
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La Famille Plisson. Excuse the blurry image Sad

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 10-18-2020, 02:54 AM
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  • Shaun
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Here is what I believe is a pre-2005 size 10, HMW, on its way to me. It is probably pre-2000 as per my post below (see comments about the box an lid it comes with). I will compare it to my 1960s equivalent (pic #13 above) when I can. 

I have looked closely at images of post-2005 equivalents, and it seems quite clear to me that there is a difference between the hair dating before and after 2005. I’m not judging, because different people place different values on objects the like and appreciate. 

I do maintain, though, that even older vintage Plisson brush lofts have no modern equivalent.

Anyway, just below, the pic of the pre-2005 (pre-2000, in fact) NOS on its way to me. This is not a picture of what is on offer today. The picture at the beginning of this thread (right at the start of the whole thread) is a brush dating from the 1960s): 

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 10-18-2020, 04:30 AM
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  • Bony
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Yes, I see also the difference, but either way you are for a treat. Congratulations!

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 10-19-2020, 09:13 AM
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It is interesting you note that you believe the current Plisson predates 2005. Shavemac used to have 2-band D01 prior to 2005, and then because of not being able to get stock of the hair Bernd stopped selling the 2-band D01 hair. I happen to have one of those 2005 2-band D01's and it is notably softer than what is available with 2-band D01 to date. Not sure when Bernd started offering 2-band D01 again, but I think it was sometime past 2012.

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 10-19-2020, 11:43 AM
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  • Shaun
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(10-19-2020, 09:13 AM)kooshman7 Wrote: It is interesting you note that you believe the current Plisson predates 2005. Shavemac used to have 2-band D01 prior to 2005, and then because of not being able to get stock of the hair Bernd stopped selling the 2-band D01 hair. I happen to have one of those 2005 2-band D01's and it is notably softer than what is available with 2-band D01 to date. Not sure when Bernd started offering 2-band D01 again, but I think it was sometime past 2012.

What I posted just above isn't a current model. It is new old stock (NOS). Wink I have posted a picture of the current offering under this post. I do not own one of these current offerings. I haven't got one coming.

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 10-19-2020, 12:26 PM
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  • Shaun
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Below is a picture of the end of a box containing a Plisson horn HMW. This picture is taken from a thread posted in early May 2006. The Plisson on its way to me is in this kind of box, with this kind of plastic, see-through lid. This kind of plastic see-through lid was used much earlier, and ceased being used on this type of box in 2000, meaning that the brush is just pre-2000.

I don’t own a current offering, however, I do know the one coming to me (pictured a few posts above, #24, on an angle) is NOS in the same box and lid as below, making it pre-2000. 

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Below: a picture of the HMW horn which is today’s offering (2020). Not a great pic, but you might be able to discern some differences from the pre-2000 brush pictured on an angle a few posts above. Subtle, yes.

So there are three Plissons: my 1960s vintage (the basis of this thread, in my possession); the pre-2000 vintage (on its way to me, in a box the same as the pic above); and today’s offering, taken from the Plisson website, which I don’t own, and which is not coming to me.

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