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(04-03-2019, 11:27 AM)Ols67 Wrote:
(04-03-2019, 01:00 AM)RazorSteve Wrote:
(04-02-2019, 08:36 PM)RzrShrp Wrote: 2 years ago On my very first order I bought the Lavendar, Fougere, Rose and Vetyver. I shave at least twice a week and I still haven’t finished one. I’m actually annoyed because I don’t want to be wasteful so I won’t buy more soap until I finish these up. I might be set for life.

You illustrate exactly what bothers me with MdC, the jar sizes.
MdC is not actually more expensive than for example Klar Siefen per 100g if you buy the 200g jar. They both cost the same (just under 23€ per 100g) and Klar is milled five times so I see no reason to believe it won't last at least as long as MdC's soaps. But MdC makes you choose between 50g at TWICE that price (50€ per 100g) or 200g at the lower price (unlike Klar and almost all other soaps that comes in ~100g jars). To me this is a sneaky way to get people to overspend. Especially, as you claim, because they last so long. Did you really need to buy almost a kilo of that soap? Would you have bought as much, if they had offered 100g jars? 

And this is why I am about to buy a jar of Klar but I won't buy MdC, but that's just me.

Steve,

Regarding your question about needing a to buy almost a kilo of the soap...200g is not even 1/4 of a kilo.  In addition, I own the Original, Vetyver, Argumes, Rose, and Fougere...each in the 200g jar!
Matt,
Regarding your math Smile 
Since you listed having bought four of them: 4 x 200 = 800 gram which is (obviously, I thought) what I was referring to when I said "almost a kilo". The implication being that if they had offered 100g jars you could have had all "scents available" without needing to, as you said, stock up on soap for the rest of your life (or pay double for small jars). 

(04-03-2019, 11:27 AM)Ols67 Wrote: So while I didn’t need to own a full kilo of MDC...I wanted to, and I don’t regret having five jars of the different scents available.  
And that's fine but you seem to be missing my point.
I was not complaining about them offering 200g jars. I was complaining about the fact that they force you to choose between a severely overpriced 50g jar or a large jar which brings the per-product cost up to a point where it is prohibitive for many prospective customers (which I suspect is the very point: they want to artificially create exclusivity). They could easily offer a 100g jar too, at the same or slightly higher price/100g but they choose not to (or they could simply offer the 50g jars for a more reasonable price).

This is of course their business decision and it is their right to sell their products any way they choose.
Just as it is my right as a consumer is to be repelled by what I see as a manipulative business practice. And I am.

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 04-04-2019, 01:24 AM
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(04-03-2019, 10:50 AM)Nero Wrote: Except that no one thinks Klar is comparable to MdC.

Even if that is true it is completely and utterly beside the point I was making. The one that I assume went over your head?

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 04-04-2019, 08:48 AM
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(04-03-2019, 01:03 PM)Ols67 Wrote:
(04-03-2019, 12:37 PM)nikos.a Wrote: Just buy them from Shavedash. 8 euros for a sample is a joke.

(Save your money for better soaps, like Nuavia for example if you prefer premium soaps with nice presentation).

I forgot about shavedash Nick!  Quite right!

Vr

Matt

Good point.  I had gotten some samples from Shavedash and the small sample they sent lasted 7 shaves and I loaded pretty heavy.  Their price ends up being closer to 4 euros and the shipping is cheaper.

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 04-04-2019, 10:16 AM
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(04-04-2019, 01:24 AM)RazorSteve Wrote:
(04-03-2019, 10:50 AM)Nero Wrote: Except that no one thinks Klar is comparable to MdC.

Even if that is true it is completely and utterly beside the point I was making. The one that I assume went over your head?
Sorry you must have lost me in the vast pointlessness of your post.
What was your point, if you could say it in a sentence or two?

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 04-04-2019, 10:17 AM
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And btw, Klar sucks... Bought it twice. Sold it twice.

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 04-04-2019, 11:34 AM
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(04-04-2019, 10:17 AM)Nero Wrote: And btw, Klar sucks... Bought it twice. Sold it twice.
If you buy it for the third time, you'll probably love it! Who knows?!

Just kidding, Matt!

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 04-04-2019, 12:36 PM
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Haha!
Ya never know!

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 04-30-2019, 07:28 AM
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(04-03-2019, 11:27 AM)Ols67 Wrote: Steve,

Regarding your question about needing a to buy almost a kilo of the soap...200g is not even 1/4 of a kilo.  In addition, I own the Original, Vetyver, Argumes, Rose, and Fougere...each in the 200g jar!  So while I didn’t need to own a full kilo of MDC...I wanted to, and I don’t regret having five jars of the different scents available.  

I guess if the world or Martin De Candre comes to an end as we know it, at least I will never have to be without my number one favorite soap!

Klar Seifen is a great product...I believe I actually did a thread giving it high praises, and I enjoy using it!  My main complaint, is what you point out as their strength.  I think that the 100g jar is annoying, and less than ideal for loading the brush.  I have found that grating it into another container that has more surface area for loading is better, or grating just a little to be pressed into a lather bowl also works.  Smaller pucks just don’t do it for me.

That being said all this talk of Klar has me wanting to use it for my next shave!!!

Vr

Matt

Hi Matt and All,

Sorry for the newbie question, but:

* What does Martin de Candre's Vetiver smell like? (or Vetiver in general?)

I saw one article online that said "The vetiver smell has been compared to the sharp smell of uncut grass on a warm day." Is this true? (Because if so, I'm not sure that's appealing for me.)

Thanks all!

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 04-30-2019, 07:48 AM
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Vetiver can be any mix of grassy, smoky, woody. Usually kinda light / transparent if that makes sense.

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 04-30-2019, 12:52 PM
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(04-30-2019, 07:48 AM)Nero Wrote: Vetiver can be any mix of grassy, smoky, woody. Usually kinda light / transparent if that makes sense.

Thanks Nero!

Hm, I've tried Martin de Candre's Fougere Shaving Soap before (1st run!), when all our Shave Nook veterans gave us the news MdC was adding it to their lineup a couple years ago. I could've sworn that the MdC Fougere I got was woodsy, a bit grassy and maybe even a bit of tobacco-esque / earthy notes.

Is Vetiver lighter than Fougere? (Or maybe Martin de Candre changed their 1st run Fougere to make it different?)

Thanks for the help.

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