04-20-2019, 11:25 AM
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Whatever works for you. But I think we all agree that some razors hold their value much better than others. This was the main point of this thread.

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 04-20-2019, 01:23 PM
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(04-20-2019, 11:25 AM)nikos.a Wrote: Whatever works for you. But I think we all agree that some razors hold their value much better than others. This was the main point of this thread.

Indeed, and it is interesting to see how the razors that held their value well a while ago suddenly drop in resale value while other razors suddenly can't be had for love nor money Smile

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 04-21-2019, 07:27 AM
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Isnt this true for almost everything? Was the 150 dollars I spent on dinner last night  worth it to me even though I only have the memory? What about our iPhones that we paid 1000 for and it's junk and worthless in two years? You can't take money with you and living in fear of losing some will take away a lot of the pleasures in life.

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 04-21-2019, 08:22 AM
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I have an ATT SE1 - a very easy to get razor which, on the secondhand market, sells for much less than it’s new price. When assessing the SE1’s value, consider the current market price as well as it’s ability to perform the task asked of it. 

- the SE1 still shaves fantastic; I’m not left wanting. If I keep the razor, it holds it’s functional & aesthetic value.
- I could sell the SE1 at a loss to chase the promise of a better shave - spending even more in the process. 

If my sole concern is making good financial decisions, I should keep the razor as it loses monetary value when I sell it. Because it continues to provide value with every shave, this becomes a question of being happy with what I have vs. my shaving net worth. In the end, I’ve determined that I don’t need to be a rich shaving man, just a happy one Smile 


*Note that my SE1 is paired with a UFO Grand Titan L, which has only appreciated in value - and I won’t sell it for the same reason that I keep the SE1 head. [i]The value on the secondhand market has increased for one item while decreasing for the other and yet this is irrelevant. Both item’s [/i]functional and aesthetic value surpass the monetary amount I would receive.  

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 04-21-2019, 09:05 AM
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 05-02-2019, 12:39 PM
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Funny as my thoughts on purchasing razors and anything shaving seem to be vastly different than most here. I don't think I ever thought of it as an investment. More of a hobby hoping to try something new that I would really like and that somehow really works for me as far as shaving goes. Selling something after trying it means I don't really think it was a great purchase, long term or otherwise. Some money back is better than throwing it away or letting it sit around in a drawer. I get to move on to something else to try/ At least that's the way I look at purchases. If you don't have the money to throw it away I guess you really shouldn't have purchased whatever in the first place. That goes for cars for sure. Life is finite. You live, you use, you enjoy or not and then you die. Hopefully someone else will dry a few tears when you are gone?

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 09-16-2019, 05:37 PM
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Reading this I remember my boss at the newspaper, who was a professional wine taster. He would say "The good thing about having knowledge of wines is that you can buy the good ones that are cheap". I have found some good razors (straight and DE) at reasonable (for me) prices. I don't buy planning to sell. Sometimes I may have to, personal economy or having more razors than I am using.

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 09-22-2019, 07:16 AM
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(04-18-2019, 07:42 AM)nikos.a Wrote: Soooo, if you spend $200+ on a razor, you don't invest your money somewhere, hoping you'll get better shaves for example. You just throw your money away, without caring about how this will get your life better, if the money you invested in having better shaves were worth it, waiting to lose a fair amount the moment you decide to sell the razor. Oook.

Everything is an investment. If it makes your life easier, better, more enjoyable, it's some kind of investment. You invested your money somewhere. And there's an opportunity cost. Example: Oh man, I should have bought the other razor, but now I have less money available. That's a bummer.

That is my opinion and I thought I'd start a thread. If you don't understand the thread or think there was no point in starting one, I can't change your opinion as you can't change mine. We can all share opinions and thoughts, this is the purpose of the forums, but at least read the OP and get my point.


Edit: I'm not referring to my friend Hans. I know I will read many posts about the use of the word "investment", so I wanted to clarify a few things, my way of thinking. If you are about to make a post about how wrong the use of this word was, just read again this post!


Have you actually lost much money resaling 
Razors on the secondary market, I'm asking 
About razors that are in like new condition, if
So how many times (once, twice ) or is it every time You sale you suffer a sizable loss.

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 09-22-2019, 07:55 AM
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I never got into this hobby thinking of investments or resale. Sure I moved some razors along, sold some and gave many away. But I got into it because I wanted a better shave that was more interesting (less of a hated chore), and enjoyable. None of my razors are expensive or modern made, and most lost any value they were going to lose 75 or more years ago. How odd how those razors still give great shaves to this day. If I looked at it as an investment, well maybe if I lived a few thousand years they might be worth something more than what I paid, but that was never the point of my entry into traditional shaving. I'm just not a bean counter when it comes to things that I enjoy.

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 09-22-2019, 08:49 AM
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(09-22-2019, 07:16 AM)Weekly Wrote:
(04-18-2019, 07:42 AM)nikos.a Wrote: Soooo, if you spend $200+ on a razor, you don't invest your money somewhere, hoping you'll get better shaves for example. You just throw your money away, without caring about how this will get your life better, if the money you invested in having better shaves were worth it, waiting to lose a fair amount the moment you decide to sell the razor. Oook.

Everything is an investment. If it makes your life easier, better, more enjoyable, it's some kind of investment. You invested your money somewhere. And there's an opportunity cost. Example: Oh man, I should have bought the other razor, but now I have less money available. That's a bummer.

That is my opinion and I thought I'd start a thread. If you don't understand the thread or think there was no point in starting one, I can't change your opinion as you can't change mine. We can all share opinions and thoughts, this is the purpose of the forums, but at least read the OP and get my point.


Edit: I'm not referring to my friend Hans. I know I will read many posts about the use of the word "investment", so I wanted to clarify a few things, my way of thinking. If you are about to make a post about how wrong the use of this word was, just read again this post!


Have you actually lost much money resaling 
Razors on the secondary market, I'm asking 
About razors that are in like new condition, if
So how many times (once, twice ) or is it every time You sale you suffer a sizable loss.
I know I sold many premium razors at a massive loss, meaning about 30% off retail price. I used the word many, so not just once... I just had to if I wanted to get rid of them. Only hard to find items hold their value.

30% off for an item in like new condition, just a couple of months old, is huge in my book.

Secondary market is not at all good for the original buyer. This is how it goes the last couple of years.

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 09-22-2019, 10:27 AM
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(09-22-2019, 08:49 AM)nikos.a Wrote: 30% off for an item in like new condition, just a couple of months old, is huge in my book.

Secondary market is not at all good for the original buyer. This is how it goes the last couple of years.

Now I think most would agree with these 
Two statements. The more often I read 
This post the  clearer your point becomes.

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 09-29-2019, 07:52 AM
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I got a great deal on a blackbird second hand but also have paid full retail for karve, cg and others

Next on my list is a wolfman but im curious to see what happens to used sales with the new wait list in place. I am definitely not interested in paying $600usd to someone for a razor I can hopefully get $400ish cad from the manifacturer

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