09-20-2012, 07:12 AM
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Just had my sixth shave with my Cadet TP-24 OC and Israeli Blue Personna. Couldn't make that third, final pass; switched to my trusty SS for the finish.

My experience with IBPs is that they'll generally last up to a full week w/o any noticeable wear. Therefore, I ask the other BOTOC people, do your blades generally wear out faster than in closed bar axes? I did get a bit of irritation, used my Nivea ASB to calm down my neck. BBS shave, though. Not a hint that hair grows out from my skin!

So, what do you find?

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 09-20-2012, 07:22 AM
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  • slantman
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I think the OC razors where out a blade a little faster but not by much. It really depends on the blade used. Razors like the 2011 Muhle R41 because of their exposure can where out a blade after only two shaves. As usual YMMV.

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 09-20-2012, 07:27 AM
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(09-20-2012, 07:22 AM)slantman Wrote: I think the OC razors where out a blade a little faster but not by much. It really depends on the blade used. Razors like the 2011 Muhle R41 because of their exposure can where out a blade after only two shaves. As usual YMMV.

Thanks, Jerry! Naturally, YMMV is the rule. But I'm looking for a consensus. And I don't believe I've seen this subject brought up before. Or maybe I blew past it because I never had an OC till last Saturday?

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 09-20-2012, 07:37 AM
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  • Johan
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I think it does. I´m sure i usually get 3 nice shaves with a Shark ss blade with a straight bar. But 2 is max with my NEW atleast before it starts to feel ruff.

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 09-20-2012, 07:40 AM
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(09-20-2012, 07:37 AM)Johan Wrote: I think it does. I´m sure i usually get 3 nice shaves with a Shark ss blade with a straight bar. But 2 is max with my NEW atleast before it starts to feel ruff.

Thank you, Johan! Only three from your Shark SS? I get at least four and maybe a week from them or the SC variety. Of course, they are cheap enough to pitch after one use. Smile

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 09-20-2012, 07:41 AM
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Michael, i have not noticed a significant difference. i guess i may have to do an experiment. Thanks for bringing this up.

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 09-20-2012, 07:45 AM
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(09-20-2012, 07:41 AM)celestino Wrote: Michael, i have not noticed a significant difference. i guess i may have to do an experiment. Thanks for bringing this up.

Celestino, I thought about this and realized I haven't noticed this subject before in any of the forums I've been in over these past two years.

It may be that I didn't see this because I'd had no OC to make me think about it.

I'm happy to be taken seriously by people. Smile

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 09-20-2012, 08:30 AM
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Michael, good for you to bring it up. i recall now seeing this question on another forum an open-comb thread. i doubt there is a significant difference, but you should carry out an experiment. Hee hee. i guess i should try it out as well.
Looking forward to your results, my friend.

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 09-20-2012, 08:55 AM
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Astra SP or Feather last a week in my 1918 Gillette OLD
Never noticed any difference in wear on either side of the dual purpose iKon OSS with the same blades.

Might be true but I didn't perceive it.

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 09-20-2012, 08:59 AM
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I can tell no discernable difference between using a blade in an OC and a SB razor. Usually 5 shaves max per each with an Astra. More or less with other blades. The R41 I noticed was harder on blades than any DE razor I've ever used. About 3 max before it needed replaced. I guess it's because so much more of the blade is exposed?

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 09-20-2012, 09:01 AM
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  • Johan
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(09-20-2012, 07:40 AM)Michael G Wrote:
(09-20-2012, 07:37 AM)Johan Wrote: I think it does. I´m sure i usually get 3 nice shaves with a Shark ss blade with a straight bar. But 2 is max with my NEW atleast before it starts to feel ruff.

Thank you, Johan! Only three from your Shark SS? I get at least four and maybe a week from them or the SC variety. Of course, they are cheap enough to pitch after one use. Smile

Your welcome. Well i have quite coarse hair. Have tried with 4 shaves with my slim adj sometime. but the last day is not pleasent at all. If you can get some more shaves, good for you.

As you say they are cheap. infact i think i paid 50 usd (shipment) for 800 blades from a well known turkish vendor so i dont have to think that much about it. Smile

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 09-20-2012, 09:50 AM
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It think the arc of the blade and the angle of attack probably have more to do with blade longevity than open vs. closed comb. However, with that being said, the razor that has burned through blades faster than any other in my collection was the 2011 MP R41 which of course was an OC razor.

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 09-20-2012, 12:16 PM
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(09-20-2012, 08:59 AM)Dave Wrote: I guess it's because so much more of the blade is exposed?

That's the magic question, Dave. And I know we have wizards armed with calipers and lasers out there to analyze these data. Eusa_whistle

(09-20-2012, 08:55 AM)razorx Wrote: Astra SP or Feather last a week in my 1918 Gillette OLD
Never noticed any difference in wear on either side of the dual purpose iKon OSS with the same blades.

Might be true but I didn't perceive it.

I wondered about these rare beauties. Stands to reason that their users ought to feel something happening.

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 09-20-2012, 12:22 PM
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I've been using the ikon s3s for the last 10 months with Derby blades and have not noticed any wear differences.

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 09-20-2012, 12:26 PM
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(09-20-2012, 09:01 AM)Johan Wrote: You're welcome. Well i have quite coarse hair. Have tried with 4 shaves with my slim adj sometime. but the last day is not pleasant at all. If you can get some more shaves, good for you.

As you say they are cheap. in fact i think i paid 50 usd (shipment) for 800 blades from a well known turkish vendor so i dont have to think that much about it. Smile

That Turk has a good business going, doesn't he? Wink

So, it's safe to say that you're not biased against Shark blades, huh? Tongue

(09-20-2012, 09:50 AM)etoyoc Wrote: It think the arc of the blade and the angle of attack probably have more to do with blade longevity than open vs. closed comb. However, with that being said, the razor that has burned through blades faster than any other in my collection was the 2011 MP R41 which of course was an OC razor.

This will be edifying if my thread catches fire here, no? Cool

(09-20-2012, 12:22 PM)FloridaRich Wrote: I've been using the ikon s3s for the last 10 months with Derby blades and have not noticed any wear differences.

A question: Do you always use both sides equally? I ask because I don't think I would. Most likely I'd use the comb for the first pass and switch to the bar for the next two. Hmm

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 09-20-2012, 02:26 PM
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My experience is that I do get fewer shaves per blade with an OC razor, but I think that is due to their keeping the entire blade on the skin with every stroke. With SB razors I adjust the angle in places to get the blade closer to the skin. With OCs this is unnecessary.

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 09-20-2012, 02:33 PM
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(09-20-2012, 02:26 PM)matloffm Wrote: With SB razors I adjust the angle in places to get the blade closer to the skin. With OCs this is unnecessary.

You betcha sweet bippy! Sisi

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 09-21-2012, 12:40 PM
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quote='Michael G' pid='96632' dateline='1348172764']
(09-20-2012, 09:01 AM)Johan Wrote: You're welcome. Well i have quite coarse hair. Have tried with 4 shaves with my slim adj sometime. but the last day is not pleasant at all. If you can get some more shaves, good for you.

As you say they are cheap. in fact i think i paid 50 usd (shipment) for 800 blades from a well known turkish vendor so i dont have to think that much about it. Smile

That Turk has a good business going, doesn't he? Wink

So, it's safe to say that you're not biased against Shark blades, huh? Tongue

(09-20-2012, 09:50 AM)etoyoc Wrote: It think the arc of the blade and the angle of attack probably have more to do with blade longevity than open vs. closed comb. However, with that being said, the razor that has burned through blades faster than any other in my collection was the 2011 MP R41 which of course was an OC razor.

This will be edifying if my thread catches fire here, no? Cool

(09-20-2012, 12:22 PM)FloridaRich Wrote: I've been using the ikon s3s for the last 10 months with Derby blades and have not noticed any wear differences.

A question: Do you always use both sides equally? I ask because I don't think I would. Most likely I'd use the comb for the first pass and switch to the bar for the next two. Hmm
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My first pass is with the OC side, however, my first pass encompasses more than one pass. I like to go over the areas that still have cream. And then I do two passes with the CS. So I believe it balances out.

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 09-21-2012, 12:52 PM
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(09-21-2012, 12:40 PM)FloridaRich Wrote: My first pass is with the OC side, however, my first pass encompasses more than one pass. I like to go over the areas that still have cream. And then I do two passes with the CS. So I believe it balances out.

Thanks for the info!

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