08-10-2019, 07:29 AM
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(08-07-2019, 07:54 AM)bullgoose Wrote:
(08-07-2019, 07:46 AM)Rohleder Wrote: Sad indeed as it's arguably the best synthetic brush available.

I first heard of this a few months back from an English vendor who sold me one for half the retail price "on the sly" as it was end of line, he gave a different reason for the discontinuation: Lack of sales. Apparently they sold like stale cakes and he was glad to sell them at half price just to be rid of them, it was on the sly as apparently Muehle can get cranky about restocking vendors who sell their products at reduced prices.

AFAIK Edwin Jagger continue to sell their 25mm XL synthetic so that could be a viable alternative.

I think day old pastries actually sell better than Muhle synth brushes these days. I may have to do a 50% off sale just to open up valuable shelf space.

That parallels our experience.  Brushes with Muhle XL's sold like hotcakes for several months, then...nada.  Two years ago, we sold the last few brushes at a 50% discount just to clear some space.  Since then, we've had (maybe) two or three requests for synthetics.

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 08-24-2019, 06:55 AM
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Can anyone who is using the Muhle STF V2 XL knot say what the oft is on theirs?

Ive read that the loft on this kind of hair shouldn't be too low or else it won't splay 
properly.

Ive heard the loft is 62mm on the 25mm knot but I could not be certain.

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 08-24-2019, 07:51 AM
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(08-24-2019, 06:55 AM)Tester28 Wrote: Can anyone who is using the Muhle STF V2 XL knot say what the oft is on theirs?

Ive read that the loft on this kind of hair shouldn't be too low or else it won't splay 
properly.

Ive heard the loft is 62mm on the 25mm knot but I could not be certain.

I don't remember what Mühle said officially (the XL brushes are now gone from their homepage) but when I measure mine it is just under 60mm from the top of the handle. 
FWIW I have no problems with this brush, it splays and does everything else I want it to do just fine. YMMV as always.

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 09-03-2019, 04:04 PM
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I'm very happy with my Muhle 25mm. BTW there is a big difference between the 23mm knot and the 25mm with this brush. I had the 23 first but heard so much about the 25 I had to buy one. When it came in it looked much bigger than just 2mm.

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 09-03-2019, 04:12 PM
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I really like my Muhle STF 23" brush.  The 25 inch would be even better.  I am not too much of a synthetic user, but I do find the Muhle a very nice performer.

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 09-03-2019, 11:01 PM
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Im happy I got an XL knot before they vanish

I have terrible luck with brushes so I hope this will be good.

In any case, brushes are are not such a huge priority for me
as razors.

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 09-04-2019, 09:48 AM
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It might be interesting to see what Muhle come up with next.
Their STF knots have been a landmark in the development of synthetics, after all.

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 09-05-2019, 02:44 AM
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I have an Edwin Jagger version and concur as far as synthetics go they are tops

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 09-05-2019, 02:46 AM
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(09-04-2019, 09:48 AM)wimbouman Wrote: It might be interesting to see what Muhle come up with next.
Their STF knots have been a landmark in the development of synthetics, after all.

They will keep making the S, M and L sizes of the STF, it's just the 25mm XL knot that is discontinued.

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 09-23-2019, 11:24 AM
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Ive been using the Muhle XL knot for 3 days straight and I love it.
Im officially a believer...whats not to like.
No badger bouquet, uses less soap, absolute killer lather retention and flow through, 
soft as a pillow and a nice backbone with just enough splay due to lofting it at 54mm.
Plus dries super quick.

Need to get a back up before they vanish for good.

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 09-25-2019, 10:46 AM
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I picked up the Muhle L STF.  I have to say I don't like it much.  My face doesn't appreciate how prickly it is.

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 09-28-2019, 09:51 PM
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(09-25-2019, 10:46 AM)rmongiovi Wrote: I picked up the Muhle L STF.  I have to say I don't like it much.  My face doesn't appreciate how prickly it is.
Where did you get it? Are you sure it's the 2nd generation?
I have several 2nd gens and they're all anything but prickly.
They're silky.

I had a 1st generation and that was prickly.

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 09-30-2019, 02:00 AM
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Sad to read this. I have a 25mm Edwin Jagger and like it a lot. One of the best synthetics that I've tried, so far. Much better than anything that I've tried from chinese makers, and way better than the 23mm Mühle.

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 09-30-2019, 03:29 AM
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Thanks. Reading this stuff is really helpful. New to wet shaving. Started with razors and now just getting into the brush side. Nice to know there are excellent options in the synthetic category. Some articles make it sound like it is silvertip or nothing ... and the premium on silvertips is more than I want to be paying for a first brush.

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 09-30-2019, 05:53 AM
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(09-28-2019, 09:51 PM)Nero Wrote:
(09-25-2019, 10:46 AM)rmongiovi Wrote: I picked up the Muhle L STF.  I have to say I don't like it much.  My face doesn't appreciate how prickly it is.
Where did you get it? Are you sure it's the 2nd generation?
I have several 2nd gens and they're all anything but prickly.
They're silky.

I had a 1st generation and that was prickly.

I ordered it directly from Muhle.  I can't tell if it's V2 but I certainly expected it to be.  All I can say is that after two shaves it went straight to the shelf.

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 09-30-2019, 03:55 PM
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(09-30-2019, 05:53 AM)rmongiovi Wrote:
(09-28-2019, 09:51 PM)Nero Wrote:
(09-25-2019, 10:46 AM)rmongiovi Wrote: I picked up the Muhle L STF.  I have to say I don't like it much.  My face doesn't appreciate how prickly it is.
Where did you get it? Are you sure it's the 2nd generation?
I have several 2nd gens and they're all anything but prickly.
They're silky.

I had a 1st generation and that was prickly.

I ordered it directly from Muhle.  I can't tell if it's V2 but I certainly expected it to be.  All I can say is that after two shaves it went straight to the shelf.
Sorry to hear. I'd say send it to me but I already have 3 backups Smile
(Edwin Jagger ones)

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 10-03-2019, 02:00 AM
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(09-25-2019, 10:46 AM)rmongiovi Wrote: I picked up the Muhle L STF.  I have to say I don't like it much.  My face doesn't appreciate how prickly it is.

Funny how experiences can differ. I happen to have an XL 1st Gen Muhle, and never have found it prickly in anyway. V2 was softer, but not by a large difference. Do note the V2 was the smaller 23 to 21mm sizes, but I had about 6 V2 Muhles and found them all consistently soft.

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 Yesterday, 02:33 PM
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I've heard that the Frank Shaving Pur-Tech synthetic silvertip fiber knots are very similar to the Muhle and Jagger knots, and they sell them in handles or as knots. He has them on Amazon in 25mm. Does anyone have any experience with them?

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