08-24-2019, 06:38 PM
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I’m curious to the pragmatic differences between the Paladin PK-47 26mm and 28mm handles. For those of you who have/had both, which do you prefer? Do you feel there is a significant difference between the two handles sizes? Let me know your thoughts.

Context: most of my brushes are 28mm, except a 26mm lotus (which is perfection). I recently purchased a PK-47 26mm honey noir which is fantastic, but every now and again I wonder if I’d like a larger handle on that particular brush.

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 08-24-2019, 08:59 PM
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  • SCOV
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I like the 26mm PK-47 handle.  I had one 28mm PK-47 and obvious difference.  Sounds like we are the opposite in terms of favorite size.
FYI - sold the 28mm.

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 08-24-2019, 09:34 PM
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  • w_mcnabb
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  • San Antonio, TX
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28mm handle feels great in hand. They both do but I prefer the 28. I like 26mm knots though since 28mm is more than I typically need. Here's a side by side. My best guess why the 28 is a little more comfortable is the taller curve where you grip and just a touch more beef overall[Image: zsEqufy.jpg]

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 08-24-2019, 10:03 PM
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Thanks Scott, the side-by-side really tells a story

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 08-24-2019, 10:20 PM
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And this is exactly why I never buy a 28mm in PK-47 - I don’t want to like it & make my 26s obsolete.

Right now, having never held a 28 - my 26mm PKs are perfect - let’s not mess that up!


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 08-25-2019, 08:11 AM
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FWIW, the 28 mm PK-47 is proportionally scaled (in both height and diameter) based on the 26 mm CAD drawing. 26 : 28 = 1 : 1.0769230769231. Just by the number, 1.077x doesn't look to me like it should result in much of a size increase, but it's significant. 

I enjoy using 28 mm brushes now and then, but 26 mm is the sweet spot for me in terms of knot size. (Note that our brushes with 28 mm sockets generally have knots with a base diameter of approximately 27 mm, and those with 26 mm sockets have knots with a base diameter of about 25 mm.) That said, the 28 mm PK-47 might be a little more comfortable in my hand. But we'd never set a 26 mm knot in a 28 mm handle. It wouldn't balance aesthetically. 

We don't always derive scale based exclusively on relative socket diameters. As size increases, balance tends to shift. E.g., the 28 mm Chief was derived using a 26:28 ratio, but the 30 mm version I just prototyped ended up at .99 x 26:28. 99% just looked and felt better than 100% to us. As I recall, the 28 mm Lotus (or it might have been the Cleo) came out at .98 x 26:28. CAD and CNC enable that level of refinement. And, yes, the difference between 98% and 99% of 26:28 is noticeable, at least to me. 

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 08-25-2019, 11:01 AM
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  • MaxP
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I have a couple 26mm PK47s and one 28.

The 28 is a wonderful brush, but the 26 size gets more use and is the preferred size for me.

I’d sell the 28 if it weren’t such a beautiful brush (it’s a Vesuvius) but it’s good looks garner it a space in my cabinet.

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 08-25-2019, 11:41 AM
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I have a 26 and 28 Moe and the difference is noticeable to me.  Both are great, but with large hands, the 28mm Moe feels better to me.  From Scott's nice picture, I am sure I would prefer  the PK-47 28mm.

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 08-25-2019, 12:21 PM
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  • MaxP
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Here’s a couple comparison shots that may contribute to the discussion

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 08-26-2019, 06:59 AM
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(08-25-2019, 11:41 AM)petropn Wrote: I have a 26 and 28 Moe and the difference is noticeable to me.  Both are great, but with large hands, the 28mm Moe feels better to me.  From Scott's nice picture, I am sure I would prefer  the PK-47 28mm.

In the case of the Moe, I didn't scale it vertically. Just increased radius by about 1 mm (i.e., diameter by 2 mm). Height is the same. Ergonomically, I thought the 26 mm Moe's vertical profile was close to perfect already, so didn't want to change it.

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 08-26-2019, 11:40 AM
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(08-25-2019, 12:21 PM)MaxP Wrote: Here’s a couple comparison shots that may contribute to the discussion

[Image: Bj23xoR.jpg]

[Image: QNN1x3e.jpg]

You should hand that Vesuvius to me... Wink

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 08-26-2019, 11:51 AM
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  • Niro884
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I find the 28 mm PK-47 to be slightly easier to grip; excluding the obvious knot difference.  Having said that, it just depends on mood for me on that day; either way, you can't really go wrong. The change from a 26 mm Moe to a 28 mm Moe was more significant for me.  That extra mm on the Moe made a huge difference.  It was already a very ergonomically friendly brush, but the 28 mm was even better. I didn't think it was possible to get any better.

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