10-12-2019, 07:48 AM
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Just caught wind of the new release this weekend entitled “Massacre of the Innocents.” I’ve seen some idiotic titles over the years, but this takes the cake. Look at the world we live in today. This is beyond highly offensive. Anyone who buys this should be ashamed. Disgusting.

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 10-12-2019, 07:50 AM
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  • Agravic
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I find this to be beyond poor taste.

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 10-12-2019, 07:57 AM
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I suppose that in a world saturated with melt-and-pour no skills required handcrafted artisan soaps, the soap melters artisans have to work ever harder to get noticed. It worked, too.

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 10-12-2019, 08:13 AM
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I don't mind it. I think it's based off the scent Herod. So the title is appropriate, and I don't think it is intentionally tied to anything in current events . Sometimes, imo, we should be reminded about horrible things so that we don't repeat them.

But I could see how some people would have a problem with this . And it's their choice to buy it or not.

But it looks like impressions on the milksteak formula are crazy good in terms of performance.

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 10-12-2019, 08:26 AM
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It's vile, and beyond any explanation, justification or excuse.

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 10-12-2019, 08:40 AM
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I just bought a tub.

The arts—literature, theatre, music, etc.—are filled with themes that involve the massacre of innocents. I learn from these themes. Schindler’s List is but one example. 

Of course, shaving soap is not art. But I have no problem with the name he gave this soap.

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 10-12-2019, 08:51 AM
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This is shaving soap, not art. This appears to be nothing more than a horribly failed attempt at a halloween themed name.

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 10-12-2019, 08:59 AM
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Honest question here.  Is the soapmaker making fun of something that happened, or something that didn't happen?  Is it pro Christian or anti Christian?  Trying to decide if I should be offended by the name of a shaving soap.

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 10-12-2019, 09:04 AM
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(10-12-2019, 08:59 AM)ddk13 Wrote: Honest question here.  Is the soapmaker making fun of something that happened, or something that didn't happen?  Is it pro Christian or anti Christian?  Trying to decide if I should be offended by the name of a shaving soap.

There’s plenty else to be offended by, in my opinion, but then again I’m a Unitarian Universalist, so I’m the first to confess that my knowledge of the Bible is virtually nonexistent.

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 10-12-2019, 09:13 AM
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He actually provided a perfectly good explanation on his website, but i'm guessing most people probably didn't bother to read it.

It's a HEROD dupe.

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 10-12-2019, 09:15 AM
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I'll gladly take a historic reference supported by the name of the fragrance it is based off of on my soap over some T&A plastered on the labels. In the end it's just soap, don't like it, don't buy it.


Also, I don't recall this ever being labeled as a Halloween release, just coincidental timing.

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 10-12-2019, 09:23 AM
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(10-12-2019, 09:13 AM)jeffm54321 Wrote: He actually provided a perfectly good explanation on his website, but i'm guessing most people probably didn't bother to read it.

It's a HEROD dupe.

I read the website before forming an opinion, and I'm sure others did also.

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 10-12-2019, 09:25 AM
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(10-12-2019, 09:23 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote:
(10-12-2019, 09:13 AM)jeffm54321 Wrote: He actually provided a perfectly good explanation on his website, but i'm guessing most people probably didn't bother to read it.

It's a HEROD dupe.

I read the website before forming an opinion, and I'm sure others did also.

So it does have an explanation, you just refuse to accept it.

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 10-12-2019, 09:31 AM
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One can accept an explanation, and still find it to be disgusting.

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Matt

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 10-12-2019, 09:41 AM
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(10-12-2019, 09:25 AM)Tonality Wrote:
(10-12-2019, 09:23 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote:
(10-12-2019, 09:13 AM)jeffm54321 Wrote: He actually provided a perfectly good explanation on his website, but i'm guessing most people probably didn't bother to read it.

It's a HEROD dupe.

I read the website before forming an opinion, and I'm sure others did also.

So it does have an explanation, you just refuse to accept it.

I'm not accepting an obviously pathetic attempt at explaining a disgusting marketing ploy.

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 10-12-2019, 09:48 AM
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(10-12-2019, 09:41 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote:
(10-12-2019, 09:25 AM)Tonality Wrote:
(10-12-2019, 09:23 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: I read the website before forming an opinion, and I'm sure others did also.

So it does have an explanation, you just refuse to accept it.

No, it's an obviously pathetic attempt at explaining a disgusting marketing ploy seeking to glorify today's mass violence incidents.

You realize that's just simply false, right? The soap is a dupe of Parfum de Marley Herod. Herod was the name given to a Turkish race horse (all Parfum de Marley scents are named after famous horses) which was a descendant of Turkish warhorses and was named after Herod biblical king most known of his acts against male children. That is literally the explanation, why must you completely ignore that and assume something different and sinister?

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 10-12-2019, 09:54 AM
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(10-12-2019, 09:48 AM)Tonality Wrote:
(10-12-2019, 09:41 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote:
(10-12-2019, 09:25 AM)Tonality Wrote: So it does have an explanation, you just refuse to accept it.

No, it's an obviously pathetic attempt at explaining a disgusting marketing ploy seeking to glorify today's mass violence incidents.

You realize that's just simply false, right? The soap is a dupe of Parfum de Marley Herod. Herod was the name given to a Turkish race horse (all Parfum de Marley scents are named after famous horses) which was a descendant of Turkish warhorses and was named after Herod biblical king most known of his acts against male children. That is literally the explanation, why must you completely ignore that and assume something different and sinister?

So at the end of the day, the name references a story about violence against children. Great idea.

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 10-12-2019, 09:56 AM
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(10-12-2019, 09:54 AM)nervosa1901 Wrote:
(10-12-2019, 09:48 AM)Tonality Wrote:
(10-12-2019, 09:41 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: No, it's an obviously pathetic attempt at explaining a disgusting marketing ploy seeking to glorify today's mass violence incidents.

You realize that's just simply false, right? The soap is a dupe of Parfum de Marley Herod. Herod was the name given to a Turkish race horse (all Parfum de Marley scents are named after famous horses) which was a descendant of Turkish warhorses and was named after Herod biblical king most known of his acts against male children. That is literally the explanation, why must you completely ignore that and assume something different and sinister?

So at the end of the day, the name references a story about violence against children. Great idea.

Calling it a "Story" is up for interpretation, but that's not really relevant.

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 10-12-2019, 10:06 AM
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I think it's a really fun name! It fits the Halloween theme.

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 10-12-2019, 10:07 AM
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I don't get the outrage - It seems like a fun and creative way to get people interested in classical literature. I'm tempted to check out a Bible from the local library to learn more about the story.

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