11-03-2019, 01:00 AM
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  • Shaun
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This turned up today out in the wild: all intact, mint (unused) and the razor was still wrapped in the (old, cracked) cellophane. I could find no information on this razor, but I read somewhere that it might date to 1919. I have significant doubts about that, but it might be. We'll see. (Update: see my post following this one).

The shipper is as it is, as you can see, but the rest... goodness me. Even the cardboard razor blade holders. Note also the little slip of paper specifying the 22 carat gold plating.

This is a surprisingly weighty razor (65gm). I have yet to pop a blade in and try it out, but I'll get to it some time and then post. In the meantime, enjoy the pictures. A bit dark, apologies.

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 11-03-2019, 02:30 AM
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I opened one Monarch razor blade pack and found inside 5 "Cheerio" blades, manufactured by the Wafer Razor Co. Ltd. The set therefore came with 10 blades. I was able to research and found the earliest reference to Cheerio blades to 1932, and then later to 1945. Interestingly, during WWII these blades were made available to the armed services, and were magnetised so they could be floated on water to point North/South, and thus help guide escape! Cheerio indeed!

I think mine are pre-War, so I'll plump for 1938. Pretty reasonable? If so, this may help date the Monarch. Blade images (wrapper) below. 

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 11-03-2019, 03:49 AM
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Very nice find, beautiful razor.

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 11-03-2019, 05:51 AM
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Australia is a vast wealth of wet shaving riches. Very nice!

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 11-03-2019, 07:50 AM
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  • RyznRio
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That is quite a find. the bottom of the plate looks a lot like my old type Gillette OC.

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 11-03-2019, 07:59 AM
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(11-03-2019, 03:49 AM)Shavemd Wrote: Very nice find, beautiful razor.


+1

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 11-03-2019, 10:32 PM
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  • Shaun
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(11-03-2019, 05:51 AM)chazt Wrote: Australia is a vast wealth of wet shaving riches. Very nice!

Oh, I’m not so sure. I am just persistent and obsessed Smile

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 11-03-2019, 11:22 PM
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(11-03-2019, 07:50 AM)RyznRio Wrote: That is quite a find. the bottom of the plate looks a lot like my old type Gillette OC.

I have heard it said that the Monarch was a kind of reply to the Gillette Big Fellow. I don’t know. I should compare... well I would if I had one.

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 11-04-2019, 11:55 AM
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(11-03-2019, 11:22 PM)Shaun Wrote:
(11-03-2019, 07:50 AM)RyznRio Wrote: That is quite a find. the bottom of the plate looks a lot like my old type Gillette OC.

I have heard it said that the Monarch was a kind of reply to the Gillette Big Fellow. I don’t know. I should compare... well I would if I had one.

big fellow as I understand it was one of the razors in the "new" classification after the new improved was introduced in 1921. perhaps one of the Gillette-meisters could help us out here but I thought the big fellow was a 15mm new deluxe of the 1930's with a big handle and a wood box. the new deluxe had a flat bottom plate. the other variations of new plates were much more complicated with ridges and geometric shapes. the old type plate was a simple curved piece of brass with holes to allow the cap to hold the blade in place.

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 11-04-2019, 12:17 PM
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(11-04-2019, 11:55 AM)RyznRio Wrote:
(11-03-2019, 11:22 PM)Shaun Wrote:
(11-03-2019, 07:50 AM)RyznRio Wrote: That is quite a find. the bottom of the plate looks a lot like my old type Gillette OC.

I have heard it said that the Monarch was a kind of reply to the Gillette Big Fellow. I don’t know. I should compare... well I would if I had one.

big fellow as I understand it was one of the razors in the "new" classification after the new improved was introduced in 1921. perhaps one of the Gillette-meisters could help us out here but I thought the big fellow was a 15mm new deluxe with a big handle and a wood box. the new deluxe had a flat bottom to the plate. the other variations of new plates were much more complicated with ridges and geometric shapes in the bottom than the old type plate which was a simple curved piece of brass.
Well yes, that is all true. Personally, I don’t think the Monarch is like a Big Fellow, really. As far as the BF goes, I think there were earlier and later versions. Not all came in a wooden box, as far as I know.

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