01-05-2020, 11:40 AM
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  • Harvey
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Wondering if anybody has bought this razor and if so ...any comments?

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 01-05-2020, 01:09 PM
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  • ddk13
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Like many of the reviews, I found it to be similar to the Ambassador at 3.5 which is right up my alley.  If you don't have an Ambassador I'd liken it to somewhere between the game changer models.  It's not quite as aggressive as the GC .84, which is mid aggressive.  I found the finish on my Envoy to be superb.  Another positive, or negative, depending on what you like, is that the Envoy is the grippiest razor I have ever owned.  I like it, but can understand that some might not like the nature of the handle.

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 01-05-2020, 03:04 PM
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  • chazt
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Sounds encouraging. Can it be used with a different handle? It seems heavier (~106 grams?) than I like nowadays...

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 01-05-2020, 04:12 PM
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(01-05-2020, 03:04 PM)chazt Wrote: Sounds encouraging. Can it be used with a different handle? It seems heavier (~106 grams?) than I like nowadays...

The base plate is indented where the handle screws in and seats into the plate.  I've used a couple different handles with it.  One that is larger than the hole, and one that fits in the hole.
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 01-05-2020, 07:25 PM
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(01-05-2020, 04:12 PM)ddk13 Wrote:
(01-05-2020, 03:04 PM)chazt Wrote: Sounds encouraging. Can it be used with a different handle? It seems heavier (~106 grams?) than I like nowadays...

The base plate is indented where the handle screws in and seats into the plate.  I've used a couple different handles with it.  One that is larger than the hole, and one that fits in the hole.
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Thanks for the info. Did you find either handle to be “better” in any way? Do you think the repro Ball End handle would attach properly?

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 01-06-2020, 07:19 AM
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(01-05-2020, 07:25 PM)chazt Wrote:
(01-05-2020, 04:12 PM)ddk13 Wrote:
(01-05-2020, 03:04 PM)chazt Wrote: Sounds encouraging. Can it be used with a different handle? It seems heavier (~106 grams?) than I like nowadays...

The base plate is indented where the handle screws in and seats into the plate.  I've used a couple different handles with it.  One that is larger than the hole, and one that fits in the hole.

Thanks for the info. Did you find either handle to be “better” in any way? Do you think the repro Ball End handle would attach properly?

I like the stock handle the best.  I'm not sure re: the ball end tech handle.  I tried a handle from a Tech and it didn't fit too well.  If I remember to take my calipers home from work I can measure the width of the recess.

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 01-06-2020, 08:35 AM
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(01-05-2020, 01:09 PM)ddk13 Wrote: Like many of the reviews, I found it to be similar to the Ambassador at 3.5 which is right up my alley.  If you don't have an Ambassador I'd liken it to somewhere between the game changer models.  It's not quite as aggressive as the GC .84, which is mid aggressive.  I found the finish on my Envoy to be superb.  Another positive, or negative, depending on what you like, is that the Envoy is the grippiest razor I have ever owned.  I like it, but can understand that some might not like the nature of the handle.

I guess it's all subjective.  I do agree the Envoy is similar to the 3.5 setting on the Ambassador, but have to dis-agree that it's milder than the GC .84.  I find that for my skin the GC .84 is much milder, maybe the forward blade exposure of the Envoy is greater which makes it, to me anyway, more aggressive feeling. The Envoy is a beautifully machined and finished tool, the handle is a tad short for me but works perfectly and as noted is "extremely" grip worthy.

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 01-06-2020, 09:15 AM
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The Envoy has less blade gap than the .84, as well as less blade exposure.  It also has more curvature to the blade creating a rigid shaving edge, as opposed to the .84, making it feel more aggressive than it actually is.  I haven't cut myself with the Envoy, or Ambassador in a couple hundred shaves, but have found that if i'm not careful with the game changer I can get weepers or the occasional nick.

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 01-06-2020, 08:20 PM
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  • chazt
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(01-06-2020, 07:19 AM)ddk13 Wrote:
(01-05-2020, 07:25 PM)chazt Wrote:
(01-05-2020, 04:12 PM)ddk13 Wrote: The base plate is indented where the handle screws in and seats into the plate.  I've used a couple different handles with it.  One that is larger than the hole, and one that fits in the hole.

Thanks for the info. Did you find either handle to be “better” in any way? Do you think the repro Ball End handle would attach properly?

I like the stock handle the best.  I'm not sure re: the ball end tech handle.  I tried a handle from a Tech and it didn't fit too well.  If I remember to take my calipers home from work I can measure the width of the recess.

Thanks, it’s nice of you to offer, but don’t do it on my account. I’m just mildly curious.
Thanks again Smile

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