03-29-2020, 05:43 PM
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  • MrGuy
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As the title suggests, I’m curious what everyone thinks the best, first gear would be? Of course, there’s a bit of a catch.
I’m in the process of getting back in the swing of posting regular videos, starting with a bit of the basics, something I never really did before. I’ve already shared some ideas on what someone brand new to wet shaving should think about before their first order and I have some items ready to go that I think would make a suitable first order. I also picked based on things I have never used before to give them a try and see if I feel the same about someone new buying the same after I try them.
I’d like to get another order going, same concept, but this time free from my personal biases. This is where you come in, if you care to play along.
This next order will be from the BullGoose shop. Please pick items you would recommend to any newcomer to wet shaving as their first purchases. Each item must be currently available to ensure somewhat prompt ordering.
You’ll need to list 1 each of; A razor, a brand of blade, a shave brush. I’m also looking for two (2) shave soap/cream selections. (I always suggest newcomers pick up two if possible just incase the scent doesn’t sit well or skin irritation occurs they have immediate backup. Also, someone new should practice making lather, a lot, and that will naturally use a lot of product.)
If multiple people enter I’ll select the item(s) with the most votes, if any category has only single votes of multiple products I’ll do a random number draw based on order entered, if everyone’s list is unique I’ll do the random selection based on the full list in order of entry.
As of right now, there’s no prize involved, unless you think of hearing your username thanked in a crummy YouTube video as a prize.
I’m hoping to have this poll wrapped up and the order in by the end of the week or early next week.
Thanks in advance for any participation, if there’s anything you think should be added or changed please let me know!

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 03-29-2020, 11:33 PM
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Razor-https://bullgooseshaving.com/collections/double-edge-razors/products/merkur-20011-long-handled-double-edge-safety-razor

Blade 1 Mild Option - https://bullgooseshaving.com/collections...zor-blades

Blade 2 Sharp Option- https://bullgooseshaving.com/collections...dge-blades

Brush Option 1-https://bullgooseshaving.com/collections/semogue-shaving-brushes/products/semogue-owners-club-shaving-brush-super-badger-with-cherry-wood-handle

Brush Option 2- https://bullgooseshaving.com/collections...ite-badger


Soap - https://bullgooseshaving.com/collections...aving-soap

Cream - https://bullgooseshaving.com/collections...am-in-tube

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 03-30-2020, 02:17 AM
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  • Mel S Meles
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Preshave: (from a local drugstore — WALL DRUG? — not a shaving specialty store)  Noxzema Original Classic Clean Deep Cleansing Cream.

Shaving Soap (1):  LaToja Shave Stick  https://bullgooseshaving.com/collections...have-stick

Shaving Soap (2):  Provence Sante Green Tea  https://bullgooseshaving.com/collections...aving-soap

Brush:  Semogue Owners Club Badger, Cherry Wood Handle  https://bullgooseshaving.com/collections...ood-handle

Razor:  Feather MR3 neo  https://bullgooseshaving.com/collections...idge-razor
Although it gives an exceptionally close shave, it is almost impossible to nick oneself with an MR3 neo.

Blade: Feather MR3 blades, 9-pack  https://bullgooseshaving.com/collections...-pack-of-9
Nine cartridges should yield between 100 and 150 shaves, depending upon the beard and the soap used.

Aftershave:  Cold tap water.

The Best Fist Gear:  (the best fist gear)

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 03-30-2020, 04:11 AM
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Caveat Lector; I have my own set of biases when it comes to recommending gear, and some of the gear I would recommend for a wholly new shaver isn't carried by BullGoose (for instance, Phil don't sell vintage razors nor does he carry a couple of razors I often suggest).

Razor: Merkur 41C (as a Gillette Old equivalent)
Blade: Green Astra (a nice all round blade that fits most razors and faces)
Brush: Semogue 1250 (I really want to recommend a horse hair brush, but I do realise most shavers don't enjoy them as much as I do)
Soap 1: Asylum Shave Soap, any flavour (I have a couple and find them easy to lather and shave with)
Soap 2: Proraso, green (with the option of Red instead, depending in personal taste)
Other gear: LEA Alum (for any nicks and scratches), Asylum Aftershave (match with soap), and a blade bank (for safety's sake)

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 03-30-2020, 08:24 AM
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  • MrGuy
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Lots of excellent suggestions already! Interesting range of product selections as well. I encourage new wet shavers to go the vintage route as well. Due to my fantastic luck finding super cheap but very nice condition vintage razors in junk shops I’ve provided pretty much all my friends who even show the slightest interest in wet shaving a nice Super Speed to take for a spin. I don’t think I’ve ever received one back! (Which is a good thing, I think it means they like them.)
Keep those suggestions coming!

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 03-30-2020, 11:24 AM
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  • Mel S Meles
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Following the suggestion in the OP, and with grateful respect to our intrepid host, BullgooseShaving, I limited my recommendation for shaving soaps to those soaps listed on the BullGoose website, among which are some soaps that I never have tried, and thus could not, in good conscience, recommend.  

However, were I to discard the conditions that I should recommend only soaps that are stocked by BullGoose and that I personally have tried, there are other soaps that I have tried that I should have recommended.

Unconditional Shave Soap:  Mystic Water.  Any of the (many excellent) choices, but I have preferred the ones that use only essential oils and no fragrance oils.  I expect that our friend and contributtor Celestino will join in affirmance, but I shall let him speak for himself.

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 03-30-2020, 12:00 PM
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I think I remember a lot of buzz about them many years back, I could be wrong. I’ll certainly take a look at what they offer for myself or for future videos! Thanks for the suggestion!

(03-30-2020, 11:24 AM)Mel S Meles Wrote: Following the suggestion in the OP, and with grateful respect to our intrepid host, BullgooseShaving, I limited my recommendation for shaving soaps to those soaps listed on the BullGoose website, among which are some soaps that I never have tried, and thus could not, in good conscience, recommend.  

However, were I to discard the conditions that I should recommend only soaps that are stocked by BullGoose and that I personally have tried, there are other soaps that I have tried that I should have recommended.

Unconditional Shave Soap:  Mystic Water.  Any of the (many excellent) choices, but I have preferred the ones that use only essential oils and no fragrance oils.  I expect that our friend and contributtor Celestino will join in affirmance, but I shall let him speak for himself.

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 03-30-2020, 03:49 PM
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For a new person, I keep the cost under $100.  

Razor:  Merkur 34C
http://bullgooseshaving.com/products/mer...fety-razor

Blade:  Astra SP
http://bullgooseshaving.com/products/ast...-de-blades

Brush:  Fine Accoutrements synthetic
http://bullgooseshaving.com/products/fin...ving-brush

Creams:  Asylum English Collection - European Barbershop, and Prorasso Green.
http://bullgooseshaving.com/products/asy...rshop-170g

http://bullgooseshaving.com/products/pro...ravel-tube

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 03-30-2020, 06:31 PM
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  • chazt
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This would be my newbie BullGoose order:

Razor: Merkur 42C
Brush: Semogue Owner’s Club 2 band badger
Blade: Israeli Personna
Soap: ASW Fougere or Tobacco and/or Proraso Red or Green
Post Shave: Osma Bloc Alum

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 03-30-2020, 07:52 PM
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Were I to recommend a setup to a shaver who’d never tried traditional wet shaving, I’d slow the journey down a bit. Instead of going all-in, I’d advise them to stay with the (likely) cartridge they are already using - except with a new pack of blades, and add an inexpensive soap like proraso coupled with a synthetic. If they want to splurge, add a sensible aftershave like Fine or Speick. The idea here is to equip them with options that are inexpensive and will perform adequately so that the shaver can concentrate on developing technique, prep, lather building, mapping their beard, and performing a multi-pass shave. If they like the experience, they can slowly upgrade portions of their kit over time.

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 03-31-2020, 07:07 AM
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(03-30-2020, 07:52 PM)mike_the_kraken Wrote: Were I to recommend a setup to a shaver who’d never tried traditional wet shaving, I’d slow the journey down a bit. Instead of going all-in, I’d advise them to stay with the (likely) cartridge they are already using - except with a new pack of blades, and add an inexpensive soap like proraso coupled with a synthetic. If they want to splurge, add a sensible aftershave like Fine or Speick. The idea here is to equip them with options that are inexpensive and will perform adequately so that the shaver can concentrate on developing technique, prep, lather building, mapping their beard, and performing a multi-pass shave. If they like the experience, they can slowly upgrade portions of their kit over time.


+1
imho, add an unscented Artisan soap.

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 03-31-2020, 01:50 PM
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Many thanks again for all the new replies! I also wholeheartedly agree with the real life recommendations for some newcomers to step in to the hobby one piece of gear at a time. My youngest brother wanted to try out wet shaving but felt he was too busy for building lather with soap and brush, so he started with my 34c and over time decided he would rather enjoy the full experience by stopping over one day to pick up a bunch of other things. This is a nice reminder that I never did get any of my razors or brushes back, is 10 years too long to ask for stuff to be returned? Wink
I might be closing down the suggestions to be considered for the video sooner than I thought, you’ve all been great!

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 03-31-2020, 04:34 PM
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Gillette pre war tech
Stirring Kong
Art of Shaving cream available for around $12 from the bay
Lord Platinum or Rapira Platunum Lux

This set up is great for beginners and those with experience.

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 04-01-2020, 12:07 PM
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Razor: For newbies, any Merkur - pick one; personally, I like the Progress - 1) cuz it's adjustable, 2) cuz weight, fit, and feel are unmatched

Brush: I turn my own so can't really suggest one.  I prefer longer brushes that will sit in a shaving cream bowl (Georgetown Pottery), silvertip badger.

Blade: Gillette Silver Blue, ASTRA, or Gillette Nacet.  If you can find any Polsilver Iridiums, go with those.

Soap: Cold River Soap Works - GLIDE, pick a scent, any scent.

Post Shave: Osma Alum Block, rinse thoroughly then follow with either Thayer's Witch Hazel (Rose or Lavender) or Trumper's Skin Food (Sandalwood)

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 04-01-2020, 03:24 PM
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If you'd told me a year ago that Gillette would start producing a safety razor after 30+ years, I'd have laughed.  But its new one gives the Merkur 34c serious competition.  Either is great as a starter razor.

Brush, you can't go wrong with Stirling's butterscotch-handle badger.  I expected there to be some bristle loss as with any other natural hair brush in its price range, but in the months I've had it, have observed no noticeable loss.

Too many good soaps out there, but if you're just starting out VDH luxury or deluxe depending on your preference.

Pre-shave: Cremo beard oil works.

Practically any brand alum block to treat face before applying AS--alum is alum.

Aftershave: Nivea balm & Clubman Pinaud Special Reserve.

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 04-19-2020, 02:17 PM
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Well, after some unexpected delays, I listed all suggestions and drew “winning” products and the order is in, along with a few things I’ve had my eye on for a while. Just in case you’re interested, here’s the lineup.
Razor: Merkur 20011
Blades: Gillette Silver
Soap/Cream: Saponificio Veresino 70th and G.F.T. Eucris
Brush: Semoge O.C. Super Badger with Cherry handle

Thanks again to all who played along!

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 04-25-2020, 09:48 AM
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(04-19-2020, 02:17 PM)MrGuy Wrote: Well, after some unexpected delays, I listed all suggestions and drew “winning” products and the order is in, along with a few things I’ve had my eye on for a while. Just in case you’re interested, here’s the lineup.
Razor: Merkur 20011
Blades: Gillette Silver
Soap/Cream: Saponificio Veresino 70th and G.F.T. Eucris
Brush: Semoge O.C. Super Badger with Cherry handle

Thanks again to all who played along!

Awesome.  If you want to try a more classic shave experience, Treet Carbon Steel blades are a great buy, especially the black-coated ones.  To prevent rusting, pat them dry after each shave and soak them in 91% strength rubbing alcohol while you dry your brush, clean your bowl/scuttle, apply your post-shave products, and then remove to air dry.  Carbon steel blades were the norm until stainless steel became commercially more viable.  They are superior in my opinion because they take and hold a good edge for longer if properly cared for.  I typically get six or seven shaves from the Treet black beauties before having to replace them.  (For context, my other favorite blades, PolSilver Super Iridium, usually only last four or five shaves depending on what razor I load them into.)

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