02-13-2021, 03:04 PM
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Gents,

I was fortunate enough today to purchase a bayonet and knife collection today.  In addition, the gentlemen asked me to sell the three swords lower in the thread, and said we can split whatever I get for them (I don’t know anything about the swords.

Here is what I think I acquired today:

1.  1856 British Yataghan Bayonet
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2.  WWI Imperial German S98 Bayonet made by V.C. Schilling...it appears to have the marking “B.1.U.R.2.54.”
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3.  WWI Swiss Model 1911 Pioneer Sawback
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4.  Weyersberg Kirschbaum & Co. Modelo Argentino 1891
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5.  Tourist Kris from the Philippines 
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6.  Tourist Kukri from India
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 02-13-2021, 03:10 PM
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Here is where it starts to get interesting...I don’t know anything about these:

1?:
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2?:
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3?:
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4?:
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 02-13-2021, 03:17 PM
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Here are the swords that I am going to sell and split 50/50 with the gentleman, but have no real information about:

1.  The gentleman thought this was some sort of Chinese sword...I sort of think it looks Persian...Shamshir?
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2:  This sword is a big beast, and the bell guard is loose.  I think that this is an antique Chinese Sword.
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3.  I think this is some sort of US Civil War era sword, and some of the bluing is intact...it’s actually a beautiful iridescent blue when the light hits it right!
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 02-13-2021, 03:19 PM
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If I was wrong about any of the first group or anyone has any information about any of these, please post it!

I collect razors, razor blades, and other shaving kit...I am way out of my league on these!

Vr

Matt

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 02-13-2021, 04:44 PM
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That's an interesting and impressive acqusition, Matt.  That #3 sword would be amazing to own if you can verify its provenance as a Civil War sword.

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 02-13-2021, 04:46 PM
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Coolest bst post ever!

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 02-13-2021, 04:47 PM
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What a find!  Years ago I was an active member of https://bladeforums.com if you have an account or create an account there I'm sure someone will be able to give you much more information about all of these cutting tools.

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 02-13-2021, 05:01 PM
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Pretty neat.

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 02-13-2021, 05:05 PM
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(02-13-2021, 04:44 PM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: That's an interesting and impressive acqusition, Matt.  That #3 sword would be amazing to own if you can verify its provenance as a Civil War sword.

Thanks Ricardo! I am pretty sure that it is...I picked the most fascinating clue, which was the iridescent bluing, and researched that...it led me to this site:

https://www.americanswords.com/blade-emb...ments.html

There are some markings on those blades, similar to the ones on this one, especially the upper right one with the cannon.

More research is necessary, and this will be a fun little project!

Vr

Matt

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 02-13-2021, 05:06 PM
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Thanks gents, and thanks Sully for the bladeforum recommendation.

Vr

Matt

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 02-14-2021, 09:13 AM
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Wow. That’s quite a haul. It will be interesting to hear what you find in your research. This could make a great episode of Pawn Stars.  Biggrin

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 02-14-2021, 10:39 AM
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(02-14-2021, 09:13 AM)bullgoose Wrote: Wow. That’s quite a haul. It will be interesting to hear what you find in your research. This could make a great episode of Pawn Stars.  Biggrin

Bahahahah! Pawn Stars actually crossed my mind Phil!

As far as the swords go...I do think the first one is a Persian Shamshir from the 1800s or earlier.

I think the bruiser is a Chinese Dao from sometime in the 1800s.

Finally, I think that the civil war era sword is actually a pre-civil war US Cavalry Special Light Saber (not a Star Wars light saber). I think it was made by a German Company called Schnitzler & Kirschbaum.

That is all I have been able to find out so far...I have to put more time and effort into figuring them out, so I know their approximate values, and the best venue to sell them in.

Vr

Matt

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 02-17-2021, 06:59 AM
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Gents,


I connected with an expert of weapons of antiquity from the Netherlands named Peter who has a fascinating website with a wealth of information on antique swords, knives, and firearms...

http://www.mandarinmansion.com

1.  [Image: Ue1qeLu.jpg]
According to Peter this is a Chinese Saber from the late 1800s to early 1900s at the end of the Qing Dynasty at about the time of the Boxer Rebellion.

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My guess was correct on this one...Peter thought it was possibly a Syrian Shamshir
from the 1800s.

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This is an Algerian Berber “flyssa” that is probably from the late 1800s-early 1900s.


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Finally, Peter offered that this was a Kindjal from Russia, or the Caucus Regions.


The history in this lot amazes me, and it fascinating how artifacts from antiquity travel the world from one guys basement to another!


Vr


Matt

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 02-17-2021, 09:18 AM
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Thanks for the updates Matt.

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 02-17-2021, 12:07 PM
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(02-17-2021, 09:18 AM)Sully Wrote: Thanks for the updates Matt.

Of course!

Vr

Matt

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 02-17-2021, 04:29 PM
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Matt, this is a fascinating thread. Please keep us updated. Thanks for the knowledge.

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