10-09-2012, 11:18 AM
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Just in from its trip across the pond is my New Forest 2223 High Mountain Badger. Slightly on the smaller side (for me) it has a knot right at 22mm and a loft between 47mm-48mm (as best as I can measure). This is the next brush in my search for soft 3-band brushes and I will admit, initial impressions are not completely what I expected. Labeled as "High Mountain Badger" the New Forest website says it comes from, you guessed it, high mountain regions of China. Notice the word "White" is missing from that phrase, so it should be understood there is a clear distinction from similarly worded brushes.

   

It's a somewhat small brush, as I mention, but has a nice weighty handle of a faux ivory material. I would say it's average in density, certainly not packed with hair, but it also shouldn't be lacking either. I had hoped for it to be a little denser, but for now I will reserve my judgement. One thing I did notice was that there was absolutely no evidence of a "glue bump" and the hairs folded easily (but gently!) over the handle.

Dry, the tips felt mostly soft, but with a slight prickle hidden in there. I test lathered it (on my hand) twice, first with Arko, then second with something a little harder, L'Occitane Cade.

   

Probably due to the density, I don't think I loaded for long enough with the Cade, and while I achieved a nice lather, it took longer and certainly didn't hold enough for three passes. It didn't feel overly floppy and seemed to have good flow-through.

   

Overall the New Forest 2223 is a very good looking brush that feels good in hand and should still be able to compete with the rest of my brushes. I will be trying it out in the coming days and see how it really performs. I might not have the highest expectations though, but who knows, it could really surprise me!

   
Boom, bloom shot!

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 10-09-2012, 11:25 AM
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Anthony,

Thanks for the info. I hope you enjoy the brush. Fido is a nice gentleman to deal with.

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 10-09-2012, 12:19 PM
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It's about the same price as SOC 2-band (when ordered from Europe).
Though this one is 3-band, how would you say they compare?

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 10-09-2012, 12:22 PM
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Well, I will need to actually shave with it a few times before I can give a fair comparison to the excellent SOC 2-band. It's certainly smaller and less dense though.

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 10-09-2012, 12:27 PM
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very nice. I have two NF brushes and absolutely love them, with my 2211 being my favorite brush in my collection.

I will say though that I prefer the old labeling of the NF brushes compared to the newer style and wish he made his brushes in larger batches.

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 10-09-2012, 12:30 PM
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(10-09-2012, 12:27 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote: I will say though that I prefer the old labeling of the NF brushes compared to the newer style and wish he made his brushes in larger batches.

Curious as to why?

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 10-09-2012, 12:36 PM
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Interesting brush.

Whats the price of it?

By the pics , looks like good silvertip badger hair , but nothing "special".Regarding being from "mountains" , well , maybe is from a hill , nevertheless , is the hair is good , nothing much to complied about.

Thanks for the review/impressions of this brush!

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 10-09-2012, 12:39 PM
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I'd like to read Teiste's review of this brush. Biggrin

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 10-09-2012, 12:40 PM
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I feel like you are hinting at something, Lee...

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 10-09-2012, 12:44 PM
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(10-09-2012, 12:39 PM)asharperrazor Wrote: I'd like to read Teiste's review of this brush. Biggrin

Well , Im sure its a good brush , but nothing like "High Mountain" silvertip hair. Im afraid we are entering in an "all marketing" direction and I dont like that : if we are heading this way , then , we will have several types of pure badger , best badger and so on, when in the past , only 3 badger denominations were clear : pure , best and silvertip.

Anyway , back to the original topic.

By the way, how would you compare this badger hair with the FS Chubby silvertip hair?I bet theyre basically the same , maybe the NF a little bit thinner.

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 10-09-2012, 12:45 PM
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LOL ...

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 10-09-2012, 12:48 PM
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(10-09-2012, 12:45 PM)Simpson1919 Wrote: LOL ...

LOL at what ,Mark?

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 10-09-2012, 12:49 PM
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I think he was LOL at the "name" High Mountain Badger.

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 10-09-2012, 12:54 PM
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Teiste, the FS Silvertip is, of course, denser, but it also has a longer and whiter tip to the hairs.

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 10-09-2012, 12:56 PM
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(10-09-2012, 12:40 PM)Tonality Wrote: I feel like you are hinting at something, Lee...

If I had thought about it before I sold it, I would have sent T my 2222 for him to review.

I thought it just felt like good silvertip hair with a weird fan shape and small knot.

The good: the hair was soft, had decent backbone. Handle was great.
The bad: the knot was small, didn't like the fan shape.

Anyway, I'm not about to purchase another one at retail.

If you ever want to do a comparison swap, it can be arranged. Just saying.

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 10-09-2012, 12:57 PM
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Now, before this goes further, this was merely my initial impressions of a new brush for me. At the basics, I'm thinking it might be a little small for my tastes, but is a well constructed brush and looks real good.

Names, brands, outsourcing, etc have no play in my initil impression... just size and preference.

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 10-09-2012, 01:00 PM
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Sorry, laughing at Lee's comment awaiting Tieste's review ...

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 10-09-2012, 01:01 PM
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(10-09-2012, 12:57 PM)Tonality Wrote: Now, before this goes further, this was merely my initial impressions of a new brush for me. At the basics, I'm thinking it might be a little small for my tastes, but is a well constructed brush and looks real good.

Names, brands, outsourcing, etc have no play in my initil impression... just size and preference.

Thanks a lot for that , Anthony , is very appreciate it.

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 10-09-2012, 01:11 PM
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I have this brush as well. I read so many good reviews of the other NF High Mountain Badger that I ordered this brush a few weeks ago.

Well, I was disappointed. Even wet I can clearly feel a scritch and that was something I didn't expect from this brush. I used to have a FS Silvertip brush (I gave it to friend) that had softer tips than this one.

It is note very dense and the hairs are much thinner than any other silvertip brush that I have, very close to the FS brushes as Teiste mentioned.

The handle with a light marbling is beautiful but I don't understand why the bottom is not polished.

I can't recommend this brush. If you want a New Forest, go for a Two Band.

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 10-09-2012, 01:14 PM
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(10-09-2012, 12:30 PM)asharperrazor Wrote:
(10-09-2012, 12:27 PM)andrewjs18 Wrote: I will say though that I prefer the old labeling of the NF brushes compared to the newer style and wish he made his brushes in larger batches.

Curious as to why?

because his older stuff is getting harder and harder to find. for example, had it not been for shanman, I'm not sure I'd own my 2211 and 2201 brushes.

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