Poll: Brush Choice for $50
 10-14-2012, 10:56 AM
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  • Howler
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  • Fort Smith AR
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The great thing about wet shaving are the choices of products when can chose from.
Let's say you had $50 to purchase another brush, would buy boar, horse hair, synthectic, or badger?

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 10-14-2012, 11:04 AM
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  • tgutc
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  • Michigan
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Howler I know you have a great boar collection so I voted for badger. At that price point I would consider a Simpson Berkeley. If you don't want to go badger a Vie Long Butterscotch Beehive Horse from Phil would be a great choice too!

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 10-14-2012, 11:09 AM
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My choice is not listed. Confused

If I could spend up to $50 for a brush, and if I already had a ton of boar like you I'd spring for the Vie-Long BGS2012 Horse/badger mix. It's a lovely brush for the money. Good looking, not too soft not too scritchy.

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 10-14-2012, 11:50 AM
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Brad,
i voted for the horse-hair for variety as i know you have the boars.

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 10-14-2012, 12:07 PM
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  • Teiste
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  • Salt Lake City,UT
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For 50 bucks , I would go for a Semogue 1305 , 1250 or 1800 and I would have some money left to spend in shaving creams and soaps.

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 10-14-2012, 12:13 PM
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SOC cherry handle boar from vintagescent

comes to $28 shipped.

that's cheaper then used.

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 10-14-2012, 01:23 PM
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  • Arcadies
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  • Greeneville, TN
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Vulfix 404 badger/boar mix and use the leftover for a semogue 1800 or a good cream/soap you've never tried.

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 10-14-2012, 01:29 PM
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  • Teiste
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Also , for less than 50 dollars , you have so nice badger brushes : WSP Stubby silvertip comes to mind.Also some NF in two band badger.

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 10-14-2012, 01:29 PM
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Berkeley or Muhle fibers.
Can't go wrong with any of these!

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 10-14-2012, 01:51 PM
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I wouldn't try for a full sized badger under $50. It all depends if this is a starter brush or adding to a collection.

You could however go the DIY route with a handle and TGN knot for under $50 and end up with a nice brush.

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 10-14-2012, 02:10 PM
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(10-14-2012, 01:51 PM)Bruce Wrote: I wouldn't try for a full sized badger under $50.

Why not? Some companies don't charge as much of a markup as more established names.

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 10-14-2012, 02:32 PM
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(10-14-2012, 02:10 PM)asharperrazor Wrote:
(10-14-2012, 01:51 PM)Bruce Wrote: I wouldn't try for a full sized badger under $50.

Why not? Some companies don't charge as much of a markup as more established names.

because in my experience, they are not quality brushes.

you are a vendor that sells $50 badger brushes so in my mind, your opinion is a little biased and before you start advertising one your brushes or pushing it towards that, be sure to read #9 here

it is my opinion that sub $50 brushes are not worth trying to source and are are not up to the quality of the big guys "simpson, shavemac, thater, rooney etc" to which you will obviously pay more money.

the best entry level "ready made" badger in my opinion is the Simpson Colonel, which is right around the $65 mark and is clearly a brush that can be an "entry" into the badger brush world or one that can last years without ever having to upgrade.

i still say get a Boar and pocket the extra money. Wink

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 10-14-2012, 02:51 PM
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Thanks for sharing your opinion & reasons behind it.

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 10-14-2012, 02:55 PM
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I agree, I have tried cheaper badger and it does not compare to a higher grade. For me the SOC would be my entry level badger.

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 10-14-2012, 02:57 PM
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  • Samjax
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Easy call for me...

Watch the BST forum and grab a name brand "pre-owned" badger. If you're patient (as in, able to wait up to 1 week); you will able to get a very nice quality brush at a substantial discount.

In addition, the devaluation has already happened so if you decide to sell, it should go fairly quickly.

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 10-14-2012, 03:02 PM
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(10-14-2012, 02:32 PM)Bruce Wrote:
(10-14-2012, 02:10 PM)asharperrazor Wrote:
(10-14-2012, 01:51 PM)Bruce Wrote: I wouldn't try for a full sized badger under $50.

Why not? Some companies don't charge as much of a markup as more established names.

because in my experience, they are not quality brushes.

you are a vendor that sells $50 badger brushes so in my mind, your opinion is a little biased and before you start advertising one your brushes or pushing it towards that, be sure to read #9 here

it is my opinion that sub $50 brushes are not worth trying to source and are are not up to the quality of the big guys "simpson, shavemac, thater, rooney etc" to which you will obviously pay more money.

the best entry level "ready made" badger in my opinion is the Simpson Colonel, which is right around the $65 mark and is clearly a brush that can be an "entry" into the badger brush world or one that can last years without ever having to upgrade.

i still say get a Boar and pocket the extra money. Wink

Wow bruce, having a rough day?



That said I'd still go for badger as I believe most high end brushes are paying primarily for branding and not an increase in quality.

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 10-14-2012, 03:36 PM
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(10-14-2012, 02:57 PM)Samjax Wrote: Easy call for me...

Watch the BST forum and grab a name brand "pre-owned" badger. If you're patient (as in, able to wait up to 1 week); you will able to get a very nice quality brush at a substantial discount.

In addition, the devaluation has already happened so if you decide to sell, it should go fairly quickly.

You are a wise man. If you dont mind used, this is the way to go

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 10-14-2012, 09:44 PM
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  • Teiste
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(10-14-2012, 02:32 PM)Bruce Wrote:
(10-14-2012, 02:10 PM)asharperrazor Wrote:
(10-14-2012, 01:51 PM)Bruce Wrote: I wouldn't try for a full sized badger under $50.

Why not? Some companies don't charge as much of a markup as more established names.

because in my experience, they are not quality brushes.

you are a vendor that sells $50 badger brushes so in my mind, your opinion is a little biased and before you start advertising one your brushes or pushing it towards that, be sure to read #9 here

it is my opinion that sub $50 brushes are not worth trying to source and are are not up to the quality of the big guys "simpson, shavemac, thater, rooney etc" to which you will obviously pay more money.

the best entry level "ready made" badger in my opinion is the Simpson Colonel, which is right around the $65 mark and is clearly a brush that can be an "entry" into the badger brush world or one that can last years without ever having to upgrade.

i still say get a Boar and pocket the extra money. Wink

You are very wrong about it , sorry to say.New Forest , like the 2201 or the 2211 have been reportedly review as great shaving brushes.I have the 2201 and I can say that.It was sold under 50 dollars.

The same with some Li Jun and Frank Shaving.All of them , no of course , but some are excellent for that price point or even less.

I wont even mention my personal opinion about the WSP Stubbies (but I did write a review of them ) , since the vendor is involved in this conversation.

However , I do understand people who don't want to buy a non "made in Europe" , badger shaving brush.

And , to be honest , boar brushes are a great option too , but I also understand who doesn't wants to buy a boar brush or horse one , and prefer badger hair better.

But to say that all badger brushes under 50 dollars are not quality bushes , is a personal opinion , and many have experienced the opposite (including myself).

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 10-14-2012, 10:10 PM
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Teiste, while I can and do appreciate all you do for this community and as you know I highly value your opinion and have made many a purchase based upon your opinion, I am not sure how I feel about your calling someone else's opinion wrong.

As we all know shaving preferences are very much a YMMV sort of thing and no one's personal opinion is right or wrong. It is their opinion nothing more and nothing less. Bruce simply stated (as you bolded) that in his experience yada yada. It is an impossible task to argue against someone's experiences.

Pleasant evening gents.

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 10-14-2012, 10:14 PM
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  • Teiste
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(10-14-2012, 10:10 PM)wingdo Wrote: Teiste, while I can and do appreciate all you do for this community and as you know I highly value your opinion and have made many a purchase based upon your opinion, I am not sure how I feel about your calling someone else's opinion wrong.

As we all know shaving preferences are very much a YMMV sort of thing and no one's personal opinion is right or wrong. It is their opinion nothing more and nothing less. Bruce simply (as you bolded) that in his experience yada yada. It is an impossible task to argue against someone's experiences.

Pleasant evening gents.


Doug , then let's say that we all are right , and that's it.Wink

Of course , its a matter of personal opinion , so yes , we all are right about it.

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