11-16-2012, 12:24 AM
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  • Elbe
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Mühle introduced a series of retro styled brushes. They are available now, have a look here: http://www.muehle-shaving.com/shop/retro/251/1?lang=en

As there is no mention of the loft height I loaded a photo into an imaging software and measured it out. Given, the knot is 25 mm, the loft is a little over 56 mm. For me too high, I expect it to be way too big and floppy for my taste.

But I have to admit that these brushes are real beauties. If only they'd use shorter lofts!

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 11-16-2012, 03:06 AM
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That is certainly a monster. I agree 56mm is just to high, but they are known for that. The first set I bought as a newbie was Muhle in pure and it was floopy.

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 11-16-2012, 04:39 AM
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Elbe, loft is 60mm.

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 11-16-2012, 04:53 AM
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  • slantman
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That is huge. Thank you for the link.

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 11-16-2012, 05:12 AM
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(11-16-2012, 04:39 AM)infabo Wrote: Elbe, loft is 60mm.

Nope. If it's 60mm, then the knot must be something around 27mm. It's easy to verify, simply check it by loading a photo into an imaging software of your choice and measure it. Ratio loft/knot is 2.24/1.

Assuming, that the knot is exactly 25mm you end up by 56 mm. And with the soft Mühle silvertips this is most likely too floppy. At least too floppy for my taste. 60mm would be completely unusable in my opinion.

Ooops, made a mistake! Ratio loft/knot is 2.33 to 1. With 25mm diameter that's more than 58mm loft. Not much missing to 60.

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 11-16-2012, 07:35 AM
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I like the handles quite a bit.

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 11-16-2012, 07:42 AM
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The handles are gorgeous!

Hopefully this initiative by Muhle will provoke other manufacturers to do more of the same ... vintage looks are classic!

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 11-16-2012, 07:54 AM
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(11-16-2012, 07:42 AM)Agravic Wrote: Hopefully this initiative by Muhle will provoke other manufacturers to do more of the same ... vintage looks are classic!

Yeah, I like this idea.

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 11-16-2012, 11:17 AM
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I do not expect these to be floppy at all. I think the extra density will provide ample backbone and a lot of resiliency.

That said, I am curious hoe they look and work in real life to.

Did I mention I bought all of them Tongue

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 11-17-2012, 06:12 AM
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Wow that's hot.......

Now there has to be a vendor states side that's getting a shipment of these....

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 11-17-2012, 06:37 AM
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(11-16-2012, 07:42 AM)Agravic Wrote: The handles are gorgeous!

Hopefully this initiative by Muhle will provoke other manufacturers to do more of the same ... vintage looks are classic!

Yeah I can seriously dig more "throwback" brushes. Two tones especially

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 11-17-2012, 10:40 AM
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Wow, those handles look cool!

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 11-18-2012, 05:01 AM
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I like large brushes and a loft of 56 does not have to be floppy. It depends on the knot diameter and density. If the diameter is 26 and it's packed with enough density, it will be soft without being floppy. I gave a Shavemac which is 56/25 and it's a great brush. What I don't know is how dense your Muhle will ge and that will be the key.

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 11-18-2012, 05:06 AM
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There regular brushes are not dense and very floppy. Mühle brushes are not renowned for having backbone.

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 11-18-2012, 06:14 AM
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(11-18-2012, 05:06 AM)Elbe Wrote: There regular brushes are not dense and very floppy. Mühle brushes are not renowned for having backbone.

The thing is Muhle/EJ brushes aren't anywhere near as floppy as Vulfix or Omega badger brushes, I find them "Usable"... I mean if I can lather MWF with a 26mm Omega, there isn't anything I can't lather lol.

I guess I've been shaving too long, I could probably lather a paper napkin if I had to lol.

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 11-18-2012, 06:41 AM
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Nobody says, that one cannot lather with a floppy brush. The question is, if you like floppy brushes or not. Me, I don't enjoy floppy brushes at all. So I'm very reluctant with these Mühle brushes. And it does not help to know, that there are even flopppier brushes around.

But they look awesome and tempting, that's for sure!

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 11-18-2012, 11:17 PM
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(11-16-2012, 05:12 AM)Elbe Wrote:
(11-16-2012, 04:39 AM)infabo Wrote: Elbe, loft is 60mm.

Nope. If it's 60mm, then the knot must be something around 27mm. It's easy to verify, simply check it by loading a photo into an imaging software of your choice and measure it. Ratio loft/knot is 2.24/1.


Elbe, you are right.

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 11-19-2012, 12:46 AM
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I've never had a Muehle Badger but had bought an HJM Boar. I loved the handle but wanted a shorter unbanded loft, I sent an e-mail through the Contact Us tab with my request and was accommodated.

I'd suggest giving this a try, the worst they could do is say no, and if enough requests were submitted, they may rethink their position.

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 11-19-2012, 03:46 AM
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(11-18-2012, 06:41 AM)Elbe Wrote: Nobody says, that one cannot lather with a floppy brush. The question is, if you like floppy brushes or not. Me, I don't enjoy floppy brushes at all. So I'm very reluctant with these Mühle brushes. And it does not help to know, that there are even flopppier brushes around.

But they look awesome and tempting, that's for sure!

Omega badger brushes are probably the floppiest brushes being made, even more so than Vulfix...

I'm weird in that I like floppy, it leads to more control of the actual tips, rather than having a wall of badger hit your face at once...

The only dense brush I love is my CH2 Super, Cool

Its cool for us Floppy lovers though, nobody ever makes cool brushes for us lol.

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 11-19-2012, 05:31 AM
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I recently spoke with Christian Mueller at the Great Shave Event and he said the retro series would be more tightly packed than the other lines of brushes.

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