11-20-2012, 11:18 AM
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What could have come to keep my Monarch Super Badger 2-band company?

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While I don't get to keep them all (the Princes will be heading back to their home) I had to get a full lineup picture. All pre-bloom except my previously used Monarch 2-band.

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Monarch Range:
  • Super Badger 2-band (SuperFine): This is the softest 2-band brush that I've ever felt. I can't find a single full black hair in the entire knot. Wonderfully creamy white tips. The brush does splay more than many other 2-bands, but it doesn't over-splay and expose the breach. No scritch, just very light scrub -- the "Padded wall of badger" effect.
  • Super Silvertip 3-band (High Mountain White - HMW): The most backbone I've ever experienced from a 3-band brush (I anxiously await comparing it to shavemac D01 hair). It's not too far behind the 2-band Monarch. Amazingly luxurious feeling on the face. Again, zero scritch and no long black hairs in this knot. Very nice white tips. Another "Padded wall of badger" brush.

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Prince Range:
  • Finest 2-band: Easily the most backbone of the entire current WSP range. Tips are very soft but the hairs do not flex as easily as the Monarch 2-band; giving it a firmer face-feel with more scrub. I still noticed just scrub & no prickle. The lower loft also gives it the least amount of flow, but it is definitely not a lather hog.
  • Silvertip: Super soft & flexible hairs in this knot. Hair shafts are no where near as resilient as the Monarch 3-band. If the loft were higher it might not work well. As it is I was able to easily load & face lather with Mike's Natural Soap. Excellent flow through. Very little scrub, zero scritch, & zero prickle.

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Black Badger:
  • Black Badger: From a single face lather some prickle is noticed. It feels more like a tingling than a sharp point. I suspect this is because the hairs flex and splay easily. If this was a firm and resilient hair it would be unusable for me. In use on a single days growth & after a pass of the razor I was happy that the prickle intensity was somewhat enjoyable. Paintbrush strokes removes most of the prickle. I will still use it with both circular and back & forth motions. There is a really nice bloom on this brush. The wood handle is light and agile. A glue bump is noticeable; the only current WSP brush with one that I can find.

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Backbone Ranking:

This one is easy. The Princes bookend the Monarchs when it comes to backbone. From least to most it looks like this...

Prince 3-band <<< Monarch 3-band (HMW) < Monarch 2-band (SuperFine) << Prince 2-band

Hair Thickness:

Another easy one but I wanted to look at them a little more closely before writing it down. From thinnest hairs to thickest it looks like this...

Prince 3-band < Monarch 3-band (HMW) < Monarch 2-band (SuperFine) < Prince 2-band

In this instance the hair thickness closely mirrors the backbone ranking.

Scritch Factor: *** Modified - see below ***

I'm going to give my (very) subjective analysis of scritch here using a simple 0-10 scale. 0 = absolutely zero prickle, no scritch, very little scrub (face it, if it's touching your face with back & forth or circular motions there has to be some scrub). 10 = lots of sharp prickly sensations, high scritch & scrub. A 10 may easily cause brush burn.

I'm not pleased with my Scritch Factor above. I believe scritch encompasses 2 variables; scrub & prickle. Some prickly brushes will have little scrub but be high on scritch due to the prickle. Vice versa a brush could be very scrubby with zero prickle & this poses a dilemma on the Scritch Factor. Still a 0-10 scale where 0 = Least & 10 = Most

Prickle:
verb/ˈprikəl/
2. Cause a tingling or mildly painful sensation in
- I hate the way the fibers prickle your skin

The only brush from Wet Shaving Products that has ever given me any prickle is the Black Badger. Both Monarchs & both Princes exhibit zero prickle.
  • WSP Prince & Monarch = 0
  • Vulfix 2234 Super = 0
  • Edwin Jagger Super = 0
  • Simpson Commodore X2 Best = 1
  • Frank Shaving Finest = 3
  • TGN Finest XH = 3
  • Semogue TSN '12 LE = 4
  • Semogue Owners Club 2-band = 5
  • WSP Black Badger = 6
  • Vie-Long Zurito 50/50 = 10
  • Shea Moisture = ?

Scrub:
verb/skrəb/
2. to subject to friction; rub.
  • Vulfix 2233 = 1
  • Edwin Jagger Super = 1
  • Simpson Commodore X2 = 2
  • WSP Prince 3-band = 2
  • Frank Shaving Finest = 3
  • WSP Monarch 3-band (HMW) = 4
  • WSP Black Badger = 4
  • WSP Monarch 2-band (SuperFine) = 5
  • TGN Finest XH = 6
  • Semogue TSN '12 LE = 7
  • WSP Prince 2-band = 7
  • Semogue Owners Club 2-band = 8
  • Vie-Long 13061 Zurito (50/50) = 10

Modified Scritch Factor:
An average of their scrub and prickle scores.
  • Vulfix 2234 Super = 0.5
  • Edwin Jagger Super = 0.5
  • WSP Prince 3-band = 1.0
  • WSP Monarch 3-band (HMW) = 2.0
  • WSP Monarch 2-band (SuperFine) = 2.5
  • Frank Shaving Finest = 3
  • WSP Prince 2-band = 3.5
  • TGN Finest XH = 4.5
  • WSP Black Badger = 5.0
  • Semogue TSN '12 LE = 5.5
  • Semogue Owners Club = 6.5
  • Vie-Long 13061 Zurito 50/50 = 10

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 11-20-2012, 11:55 AM
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  • oscar11
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I'll be looking forward to your 3 band review. Hint, Hint....

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 11-20-2012, 03:01 PM
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Definitely subscribed to this thread. Thanks, Brian.

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 11-20-2012, 03:13 PM
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I'm sold on the Monarch 3 band when I am able to get one.

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 11-20-2012, 04:44 PM
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Doc, fantastic thread. I agree with you on your thoughts of the two band monarch. I am really excited about receiving the three band silvertip! I look forward to more of your thoughts on these brushes.

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 11-20-2012, 05:35 PM
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  • Teiste
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Another one subscribe to this thread.

As I said , Lee have started a new cult...

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 11-21-2012, 02:16 AM
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What is WSP?
A new brush maker?

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 11-21-2012, 04:48 AM
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(11-21-2012, 02:16 AM)hedonist222 Wrote: What is WSP?
A new brush maker?

WSP is Wet Shaving Products

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 11-21-2012, 11:00 AM
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The knots look great, but sadly (or should I say luckily in a time of Tricolores, Retros, TSN LEs and some bespoke Emperors Rolleyes ) the handles are not really my cup of tea.

Anxiousy waiting for more WSP designs Smile

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 11-21-2012, 03:06 PM
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Thanks for posting this thread up mate.

I can't wait for the Prince and Monarch I have purchased in 3-Band to be delivered to the UK.

If they perform anywhere as near as well as the WSP Stubby I was kindly given by Dipesh recently then I'm going to be in brush heaven. Smile

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 11-21-2012, 03:12 PM
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(11-21-2012, 03:06 PM)ajc347 Wrote: Thanks for posting this thread up mate.

I can't wait for the Prince and Monarch I have purchased in 3-Band to be delivered to the UK.

If they perform anywhere as near as well as the WSP Stubby I was kindly given by Dipesh recently then I'm going to be in brush heaven. Smile

I've used both Stubbys (extra firm & standard) & the new Prince & Monarch will simply blow you away. You are in for a treat sir!

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 11-21-2012, 03:20 PM
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(11-21-2012, 03:12 PM)SharpSpine Wrote: I've used both Stubbys (extra firm & standard) & the new Prince & Monarch will simply blow you away. You are in for a treat sir!

Cool.

I'm coming home from work each day hoping that this will be the day they turn up. Smile

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 11-21-2012, 03:56 PM
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(11-20-2012, 11:18 AM)SharpSpine Wrote: While I don't get to keep them all (the Princes will be heading back to their home) I had to get a full lineup picture. All pre-bloom except my previously used Monarch 2-band.

That shelf is going to look awfully empty when they leave. I guess you'll have to order something to fill the void.Wink

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 11-21-2012, 04:15 PM
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(11-21-2012, 03:56 PM)gzp Wrote:
(11-20-2012, 11:18 AM)SharpSpine Wrote: While I don't get to keep them all (the Princes will be heading back to their home) I had to get a full lineup picture. All pre-bloom except my previously used Monarch 2-band.

That shelf is going to look awfully empty when they leave. I guess you'll have to order something to fill the void.Wink

Don't feel too bad for me. I'll have my Shavemac TSN '13 LE Ebony D01 3-band on Monday. Biggrin

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 11-21-2012, 07:45 PM
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OP updated. Still a work in progress as most of it is based on first impressions only. Hopefully, though, it will be a good start for those considering any brush in this range.

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 11-21-2012, 08:24 PM
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Brian, thanks for all the information!

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 11-21-2012, 09:13 PM
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I really appreciate the 1-10 scale of scritch. We all know we perceive feelings differently but it does help me imagine what the face feel might be like. Thanks for that!

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 11-21-2012, 09:35 PM
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Enjoyed your write-up, Brian. Thanks for taking the time.

My scritch-o-meter using your references would have been slightly different:

Prince 3-band = 2.5
Monarch 3-band = 1.5
Monarch 2-band = 5
Prince 2-band = 4

And I thought the Monarch silvertip had the least backbone.

YMMV, as we know.

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 11-21-2012, 11:20 PM
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I think that we all who have tried the new WSP products , agreed with this , Brian.
Thanks for this review.Its very helpful , specially for the people who are wondering about these brushes.

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 11-23-2012, 09:05 AM
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OP updated. Scritch factor dropped for two separate scores; prickle & scrub.

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